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Comments on news posted 2005-05-26 13:27:48: Despite defense department migration and large test-beds like the Moonv6 project, interest in the migration from IPv4 to IPv6 seems luke-warm among American industry and government leadership, according to a recent survey by Juniper Networks. ..

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kapil
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join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

 Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!

We're arrogant, we "own" the Internet and since we own all of the original Class A networks, the rest of the world can go to hell. We're fine with IPv4, Copper instead of fiber and Betamax.
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LeftOfSanity

@208.17.x.x
LOL....

yea it kills me how places like Korea and Hong Kong have ISP service that is like 10 times faster than ours.

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
Or, on a less rabid note....

Because it's expensive and the payoff appears minimal compared to the difficulty and risk.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
The government has adopts something before busines

..thats a first!

Normally govenment is years behind people in adopting stuff.


Seandhi
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Erm, not the Department of Defense... Who do you think came up with the foundation of TCP/IP?


vpoko
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We only react to things after they happen

You can bet we'll start rolling out IPv6 right around when we start running out of the 32-bit addresses. As a nation we're very reactive, never proactive.

dibbb

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Re: The government has adopts something before busines

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..thats a first!

Normally govenment is years behind people in adopting stuff.

Ever heard of DARPA? Google that and see who came up with the idea of the Internet first.

In addition, a ton of stuff used by NASA are common household products now.


pnh102
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reply to kapil
Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!

said by kapil See Profile:

We're arrogant, we "own" the Internet and since we own all of the original Class A networks, the rest of the world can go to hell. We're fine with IPv4, Copper instead of fiber and Betamax.
Of course we own the Internet. We invented it after all. We don't tell France how to operate their MiniTel service after all do we?

Oh, and God Bless America!
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lupinia
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said by kapil See Profile:
Oh, and God Bless America!
...and no place else


printscreen

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reply to vpoko
Re: We only react to things after they happen

said by vpoko See Profile:

You can bet we'll start rolling out IPv6 right around when we start running out of the 32-bit addresses. As a nation we're very reactive, never proactive.
That won't happen. By the time the 32-bit addresses would be running out, the rest of the world will have switched to IPv6 already and the US will have the entire pool of IPv4 addresses all for itself. No need to change at all.


diehardspeed
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That and can you imagine gamers Online.

Whats your IP

"2031:0000:130F:0000:0000:09C0:876A:130B"

Missed it, what was it again?

"2031:0:130F:0:0:9C0:876A:130B"

What, that's not the same address you gave me before!!

"They are the same thing!"

Oh OK.

10min later

Still not finding you

"I broke it down some more try 2031:0:130F::9C0:876A:130B"

What!!! 2031:0:130F::9C0:876A:130B = 2031:0000:130F:0000:0000:09C0:876A:130B
This is insain!!!!!!!!!!

hehe once we switch to IPv6 EVERY-thing is going to need to be done by domain names.

That means we need to make DNS more secure DHCP more reliable and the INTERNET as a whole. More stable!


pnh102
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reply to printscreen
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That won't happen. By the time the 32-bit addresses would be running out, the rest of the world will have switched to IPv6 already and the US will have the entire pool of IPv4 addresses all for itself. No need to change at all.
I think we should just invade other countries and steal their IP addresses

I can see it now... "NO WAR FOR PORN!"
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kapil
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reply to pnh102
Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!

said by pnh102 See Profile:

Oh, and God Bless America!
Are you talking about the kinda' blessings that can be charged to a credit card after watching the endless infomercials on channels 32, 38, 43, 56, 84, 77....? $29.99 for a blessing from God and a Jesus Blanket. And if you call right now, we'll throw in a free molesting session with the priest of your choice! Call Now 800-Holy-Crap!
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John Galt
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reply to dibbb
Re: The government has adopts something before busines

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Ever heard of DARPA? Google that and see who came up with the idea of the Internet first.
DARPA is an anagram for "Al Gore"...


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dibbb

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Now that's just sick.



pnh102
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reply to kapil
Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!

said by kapil See Profile:

Are you talking about the kinda' blessings that can be charged to a credit card after watching the endless infomercials on channels 32, 38, 43, 56, 84, 77....? $29.99 for a blessing from God and a Jesus Blanket. And if you call right now, we'll throw in a free molesting session with the priest of your choice! Call Now 800-Holy-Crap!
Actually, those on the right don't need to pay for blessings from God, that would be like a metal band paying for sex.
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jwersan
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reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile:

...we "own" the Internet..
No we don't, Al Gore does!!

Well he does, he invented it!

Didn't he???

Well that's what he says...


hawk82

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Still have a lot of v4 ips to give out...

Looking at the current bogon lists, there are still many class A netblocks being bogoned for one reason or another.
I think with careful managing, IPv4 should be around for awhile without running out of addresses.
This isn't to say IPv6 has a lot of improvements, but I just don't see the benefits outweighing the time and costs to switch to v6 right now.
totally my opinion, and i'm not too familiar with the internet as a whole, so dont flame me.....
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lupinia
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reply to pnh102
Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!

Depends on how badly they suck


antdude
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reply to jwersan
said by jwersan See Profile:

said by kapil See Profile:

...we "own" the Internet..
No we don't, Al Gore does!!

Well he does, he invented it!

Didn't he???

Well that's what he says...
No, the media. :P
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