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fegul
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united state
| Re: They need to... said by Anonymous  :...STFU! Agree wholeheeartedly. You don't want fiber? ok, send them over here! geez...
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join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | Re: They need to... You know some people could care less about the internet. Beyond popular belief lots don't use the internet or cellphones.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Re: They need to... But FTTP is much more than just internet, but will also bring video competition as well. Here in Huntington Beach fiber installers are a lot less intrusive than when Jarrold Cable rolled into town back in the before time digging up the streets installing CATV.
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| You have no idea but let me inform you.
Maryland is full of NIMBYs (Not In My BackYard.) They want everything but not in a way that impacts their life. They want places to go but not near them. Fix the roads but don't block them off wen I need to get to work.
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | You could adopt! | |
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Supreme Ideology
join:2004-11-14
Atlanta, GA
| hahahaha I'd love to see that. You wouldn't last digging half a trench.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: They need to... said by Newegg :hahahaha I'd love to see that. You wouldn't last digging half a trench. For Fios I would snort half a kilo of cocaine and dig like a mad man until it wore off, then the next day id do the same. Of course I would have to have an install date in hand but, the betty ford clinic takes reservations 
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Workaholic
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North Richland Hills, TX
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Reading, PA | woo! moving to annapolis! | |
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| Verizon has the nerve to try to force FIOS down our throats. Verizon tried to do work without permits here and tryed to erect these big boxes on the polls here in town. We successfully got the town to stop FIOS deployment here and Im damn proud of it! Verizon needs to learn they can NOT bully communities into FIOS nor add unsightly boxes on our polls and disrupt our community.
Im sorry but Verizon is a commercial entity and we come first, not the needs of a corporate entity whos sole goal is profit at the expense of those in the community. | |
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fegul
Premium
join:2004-08-23
united state
| Re: They need to... said by NoFIOS:
Im sorry but Verizon is a commercial entity and we come first, not the needs of a corporate entity whos sole goal is profit at the expense of those in the community.
Ok, but understand that if fiber is implemented, you could be saving money according to the pricing tier they've setup. You don't want to save money? that's fine. Who are they harming anyways? wait a few weeks, that isnt too much to ask for saving money IMO.
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| Re: They need to... said by "fegul":
Ok, but understand that if fiber is implemented, you could be saving money according to the pricing tier they've setup. You don't want to save money? that's fine. Who are they harming anyways? wait a few weeks, that isnt too much to ask for saving money IMO.
Are you blind, man? FIOS is (currently) only priced the way that it is, to promote a high rate of initial adoption. Since it is NOT regulated (tarriffed) like existing copper-plant-based services), they can *charge what they want, raising future rates arbitrarily*. If you thought that cable was "evil" for doing that, then "you ain't seen nothin' yet!" (Verizon wants to move to FIOS *precisely* because it's "unregulated", btw. They will then move from being the holders of a regulated monopoly, to holders of a raw, unregulated monopoly! Dangerous stuff indeed.)
Remember, Wal-Mart also promises "low prices" - but that's only until they have eliminated the competition locally. Verizon is surely designing the FIOS roll-out in the same style as Wal-Mart's business practices. Low prices initially, and then when the area's local competition is beaten into submission, they raise the rates as they choose. I've seen it myself (speaking of Wal-Mart) - a package of batteries, that normally sold for $3.50, Wal-Mart used to be selling for $2.97. Now that the local competition has been razed, they are now selling those same batteries for $3.97! Meaning, instead of saving roughly $0.50 by shopping at Wal-Mart, now you're paying $0.50 extra for that "priviledge". Verizon's FIOS will surely be no different.
Don't be naive - don't fall for the pure-monopoly trap. Avoid FIOS, there *will* be other alternative solutions. Competition is good, it's what fueled the American economy - don't help kill it off now. | |
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EdibleTarget
Real Gamers Dont Use Consoles
join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA | Re: They need to... so if verizon sucks, may I ask why you use it? | |
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jbgroup1
Dolemite
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Beltsville, MD
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| said by VZ IS SUCK:
...Remember, Wal-Mart also promises "low prices" - but that's only until they have eliminated the competition locally...
...I've seen it myself (speaking of Wal-Mart) - a package of batteries, that normally sold for $3.50, Wal-Mart used to be selling for $2.97. Now that the local competition has been razed, they are now selling those same batteries for $3.97! Meaning, instead of saving roughly $0.50 by shopping at Wal-Mart, now you're paying $0.50 extra for that "privilege"... Over how many years was that? And how much of that can be contributed to inflation?
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join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| Just wait, it'll end up being regulated in the end. They're only starting off slow now deploying it and if it was regulated then Verizon would probably stop installations. The govt. will probably wait until they're mostly completed and then regulate. | |
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| Get your facts straight before you jump the gun. The technology vs customer demand has Corporate America trying to keep up to date. The copper lines are extremely cost intensive and maintenance on fiber equipment is negligible. The things that the consumer is asking for demands that the telecommunications industry rethink there strategy. Judge Green, the FCC, the consumers, and etc have changed the game mid way through a hand.
If you do not want FIOS then don't get it. Do not prevent others from reaping its benefits. Do your research first, that way you will appear to have been educated. | |
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join:2003-11-28
Seekonk, MA
1 edit | "I don't use X service, so I'm petitioning to have all access to it removed from my area."
That's pretty damn selfish in my book... | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| Re: They need to... said by outback2k1 :"I don't use X service, so I'm petitioning to have all access to it removed from my area." That's pretty damn selfish in my book... umm... I'm not really sure where you pulled that from. | |
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
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join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | If a few unsightly boxes is the only thing wrong with it, I don't care. Your town is really stupid. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Verizon is installing big unsightly boxes in your voting booths?
I'm sure that they have been accused of (and maybe rightly so) of "rigging" elections, but actually installing equipment at a "poll" is quite brazen.
You should spend less time whining about unsightly boxes on poles and more time working on your written communication skills. Although after your comment, Karl is probably ready to have your children. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
2 edits | Re: They need to... Well we've had sex. That's hardly a commitment.... | |
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| Re: They need to... said by "Karl:
Well we've had sex. That's hardly a commitment....
Consentually? I thought Verizon had a habit of just reaming who they wanted, when they wanted. Guess I was wrong.
I don't think that I would personally want to get "intimate" with any telecom provider. Rumor has it that they've been "around the block" a few times. And I do mean, the *entire* block. They're known to be "dirty". And a tease. They continually refuse to "get naked", even though I beg. Perhaps I'm just not saying the right magic words to them. | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| said by RadioDoc :You should spend less time whining about unsightly boxes on poles and more time working on your written communication skills. off topic, but can you find the grammatical mistake in the news brief posted on this websight? if you can, I'll give you a cookie. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11
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| Re: They need to... said by HawkI911 :said by RadioDoc :You should spend less time whining about unsightly boxes on poles and more time working on your written communication skills. off topic, but can you find the grammatical mistake in the news brief posted on this websight? if you can, I'll give you a cookie. That's too easy. Although this is a 'website', not a 'websight'. Thanks for the cookie, but I already had lunch.
Back on topic: Instead of whining about ugly boxes on 'polls', why don't you lobby to get the whole thing buried? Overhead utilities are so 1950's...  | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX | Re: They need to... It was a sarcastic statement you dolt | |
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58ef2c0
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| Re: They need to... said by HawkI911 :It was a sarcastic statement you dolt You can't use the proper words and I'm the dolt? OK then... »more true than some would admit... was a real gem too. How was your incarceration? Looks like you've been gone since December.
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Canada
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| Re: They need to... said by RadioDoc :said by HawkI911 :It was a sarcastic statement you dolt You can't use the proper words and I'm the dolt? OK then... » more true than some would admit... was a real gem too. How was your incarceration? Looks like you've been gone since December. Ever since you lost moderator status you've done nothing but cry. | |
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join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA | Well for starters you didn't capitalize either of your sentances and it's website, not sight. | |
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Herndon, VA | Re: They need to... The correct spelling is sentence, not sentance. Do not correct grammar or spelling unless you intend to make no mistakes yourself. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by NoFIOS:
Verizon needs to learn they can NOT bully communities into FIOS nor add unsightly boxes on our polls and disrupt our community. Your absolutely right. And communities also need to realize that Verizon will be more then happy to skip over your town until 2030 or so and get everyone else. Most communities are happy, if not ecstatic that they are getting it.
For a city to block it because there are a few boxes on telephones and a little torn up grass that will grow back in a few weeks is just absurd.
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join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| Re: They need to... said by cdru :For a city to block it because there are a few boxes on telephones and a little torn up grass that will grow back in a few weeks is just absurd. Somehow, I get the feeling you've never seen what a bad contracting crew can do to a neighborhood. I managed a similar but smaller-scale project in south Florida a few years ago. I had no choice in selecting the contractor to do the work, but I was the company rep that every angry homeowner turned to when it was over. Sure, some people get bent out of shape if they can get down on hands and knees and make out where the new sod meets the old. But some people had expensive driveways just trashed, streets not repaired, hundred year old trees with initials carved in them, just God-awful stuff that made me just shake my head.
Exactly how trashed does your neighborhood have to be before you have a right to complain?
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clickwir
join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA
| It's called an upgrade for a reason. The old copper lines that you are used to are the same things that have been in use for over 60 years.
It's about damn time they got around to doing this upgrade and you people have the nerve to complain about it. Go back to the 1800's if you have such a problem with it.
Poles are unsightly as they are, so what's another box on one here or there. It's not like they were good looking to begin with.
This is an upgrade that has been in the works for quite some time, it's long over due also. If you only had half an idea of what this technology can do for you, you might not complain so much.
I welcome those street digging, yard destroying, get down and dirty to bring us all a better tomorrow Verizon contractors. Come on over ya'll, I'll buy some beers AND help dig if it helps get my FIOS quicker. I never quite understood what they meant by it, but I'm getting a better idea now... Ask not what Verizon FIOS can do for you, but what you can do to help FIOS deploy more effiently. | |
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SpitefulCrow
Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA
| You disgust me.
Verizon's going to revolutionize telecommunications and residential broadband access and kick the crap out of the overcharging cable companies by cutting the prices and delivering faster service to you and all you can think of is complaining about the work.
Why are you even on Broadbandreports? You clearly don't like broadband. Get off the site. | |
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join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
·Teliax VOIP
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| Re: They need to... And once they have complete control they will hang you upside down until every penny falls out of your pocket.
Do you truly believe that Verizon is out to do you a favor? Verizon is out to take as much money as possible from you. Eliminate competition and it is much easier to start adding things like "light transmission fees" and "more than one TV fees" or perhaps "I own your ass because I control your TV, phone, internet, I got it all fee". | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: They need to... said by keyboard5684 :And once they have complete control they will hang you upside down until every penny falls out of your pocket. Do you truly believe that Verizon is out to do you a favor? Verizon is out to take as much money as possible from you. Eliminate competition and it is much easier to start adding things like "light transmission fees" and "more than one TV fees" or perhaps "I own your ass because I control your TV, phone, internet, I got it all fee". Hey but imagine that the cable companies do it now , whats wrong with verizon doing it and less money is falling out ? Hmm nothing.
A little competition to keep them honest is a good thing. Btw your cable co left a penny under your fridge when they shook ya down.
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| said by SpitefulCrow :You disgust me. Why are you even on Broadbandreports? You clearly don't like broadband. Get off the site. Just because he doesn't like Verizon or FIOS, doesn't mean he doesn't like broadband.
Personally, I'm still not sure how this is an "upgrade" to current services when Verizon is largely known for its wireless phone services and people are dropping their landlines for a mobile phone only solution in record numbers. I just hope there are still landline customers by the time FIOS is fully developed.... | |
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Karl Uppiano
join:2003-02-02
Ferndale, WA
| said by NoFIOS:
Verizon needs to learn they can NOT bully communities into FIOS nor add unsightly boxes on our polls and disrupt our community.
The poles are so attractive the way they are, it really is a shame to mount those unsightly boxes on them... | |
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| | DSL Oberst
join:2001-11-29
| And this is that average American I keep talking about!
I understand your arguments, sir, and your concerns are duly noted. However, there will rapidly come a time when to have an internet/media connection FIOS will be required Whether or not this profits the telco is irrelevant. FIOS implementation is for the common good. It is progress. You will comply or be denied access. It is that simple.
Those who refuse progression at any and all costs need to be dealt with much like a surgeon deals with a tumor; cut and removed from the body of society. | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: They need to... Though I agree with you in most part, I think you are a little radicle here.
1) FIOS is NOT the answer, it is the name of a product. Fiber is a solution to the problem.
2) Verizon is not revolutionalizing the industry. They may be the largest company saying they will deploy Fiber, however, there are other companies that have been laying fiber since back in the late 90's. A company called WinFirst started it in Sacramento California in 1999. They of course when bankrupt. I wonder why? Comcast had that territory and Fiber is a much better service... (Acutally, there are parts of the Sac Valley area that have a choice of 5 different video providers and at least 3 or 4 broadband providers.
3) Fiber is not the only answer. Speed, however, is. If they can push a good 100 or 200mb out of DSL or Cable technology with advanced delivery methods, then fiber is a comparable pipeline. Speed is the answer, not just fiber. Too many people are fast to call death to DSL and Cable because of current speeds... People also thought that 1.5 was the limit on DSL just a few years back and now in places there is 7mb... go figure. People right now are just excited that they want it all now.
4) Fiber deployment is for the common good, comply or be denied access? Wow.. what a statement - I remember Microsoft saying that when they deployed Win2k and ME.. they were supposed to not be compatible with older/legacy computers... people complained that they were forced to advance and didn't want to make the change... the same thing can be applied here. Part of the reason MS o/s's crashed was because of the legacy code that had to be held on to for older computers to continue the support so that the FTC didn't jump their ass... I hope you all read the news - so you know.
So, with this, I agree,.. cut the tumors and move on. But, isn't it funny how this reasoning is only applied when it's something you want or agree with?
The unsightly equipment compaint is NO different than the same one launched against the cable industry - and sometimes the power industry (and their 4x4 green boxes in some yards are FAR worse than any telco/cable peds that I have ever seen.
What you have here is one a guy that probably has a nice area (as we all know Fios picked the nicer money neighborhoods) so those people DO care more about their areas, right? I know I do. However, I do also agree that utilities DO have the right to place their peds and equipment in their easements.. and for the record, do most people here know that where a utility co places their equipment is actually THEIR property? You may not think so, but it's true. If a cable or telco ped is placed in your yard, the land that it sits in and a certain space around it is actually theirs.. Check with your city, you will find out this to be true.. they even pay property tax on that small portion.
Like it or not, use it or not, want it or not, equipment will get installed and life will move on. There are many places with the "not in my back yard" mentality... and further, we all live in the U.S. where we have the right to the 1st amendment, freedom of speech.. what kind of person are you for attacking someone for their opinion anyway? Deal with it, or get out/move out.
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join:2001-11-29
| Re: They need to... Fiber deployment is for the common good, comply or be denied access? Wow.. what a statement - I remember Microsoft saying that when they deployed Win2k and ME.. they were supposed to not be compatible with older/legacy computers... people complained that they were forced to advance and didn't want to make the change... the same thing can be applied here. Part of the reason MS o/s's crashed was because of the legacy code that had to be held on to for older computers to continue the support so that the FTC didn't jump their ass...
My particular viewpoint on the MS legacy issue would not be approved of by you, I think. Quite frankly, there should be a government department devoted to determining the current computer standards and forcing all businesses to comply wiht that standard - and forget having legacy. What the businesses and corporations will do, the public will follow. If this means forcing MS to change to Linux, well hey, whatever is for the common good...
Like it or not, use it or not, want it or not, equipment will get installed and life will move on. There are many places with the "not in my back yard" mentality... and further, we all live in the U.S. where we have the right to the 1st amendment, freedom of speech.. what kind of person are you for attacking someone for their opinion anyway? Deal with it, or get out/move out.
Dual standards.. aren't they wonderfull?
Dual standards? Not here. If it was determined to be in the common good to exterminate my genetic line, I would be the first to shoot my wife and kids in the head and commit seppuku. Why? It's the common good. It is my duty to the human race to comply. I apply that attitude to all things in life. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: They need to... you can't be fore real can you? (comunism - said as I was coughing) and by the way, if it's YOUR genetic lines, then why kill your wife? kill yourself. | |
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA
| said by NoFIOS:
Verizon has the nerve to try to force FIOS down our throats. Verizon tried to do work without permits here and tryed to erect these big boxes on the polls here in town. We successfully got the town to stop FIOS deployment here and Im damn proud of it! Verizon needs to learn they can NOT bully communities into FIOS nor add unsightly boxes on our polls and disrupt our community.
Im sorry but Verizon is a commercial entity and we come first, not the needs of a corporate entity whos sole goal is profit at the expense of those in the community.
I hate to say it but it really doesn't get anymore ignorant than this.. You b*tch if they don't do it, you b*tch when they do it. Is there a way for a Telco to make a consumer happy?
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join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | You'll be here complaining in 2020 when the rest of the world has FIOS and you're stuck on 1.5Mbit ADSL. "WHY OH WHY does Verizon hate us" you'll say. | |
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@adelphia.net | dude you need to get lost. I wanted that fiber, its ass backward thinkers like you that keep us in the stone age. Embrace change, embrace the internet, and stop touching yourself! | |
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@verizon.com | ok, forget fiber, we'll just leave all that copper right where it is, your welcome. | |
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@dsl.net | exactly..
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Premium
join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA
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| Seriously. What a bunch of whiney babies.
Majorly upgraded connectivity for the entire neighborhood at the cost of slightly messing up your grass for a month....I think its worth the cost.
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| Well, nearly every state will have a taste of FIOS as the carrot to regulators on future deployments and service offerings... but if the franchise rights aren't gotten in the civial manner, what's going to happen is they will RAMP up the broadband SOOOOOO frwiggen fast that the whole point will become MOOT and they will LOSE out on ALL those franchise fees because the video service willl be through 3rd parties--internet based who could give a FLYING rats a$$ about franchise fees and take the cable industry down a peg or two and the franchise (taxing authortie$) with them...
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Supreme Ideology
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Atlanta, GA | I agree too. | |
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New Braintree, MA | I'll go get staple gun and put it up on my telephone poles | |
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Camarillo, CA | Not everyones lives revolve around a broadband connection you know! On the other hand, I agree.
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New Braintree, MA | Hell If comcast went to bury Cable in my yard I'd tell them to Fu*k Off, and go around. Thats if I could get DSL, and I hate Comcast more then Verizon. | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
|  Re: They need to...
You have no say over imminate domain issues and utility easements. Tell Comcast, or any utility to FO and even try to use force or lock them out.. see how fast the police show up and adivse you to go inside and cool off, or your other option is to be arrested.
Cable companies, even comcast, have every right to bury their cables in your yard.. check with your city. | |
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join:2003-08-30
Kempton, PA
| Re: They need to... This is Ssssoooooooooooooooooooo True .....there is a "right Of Way" ....on all streets in most communities...and if there are no variances needed to go against the codes/standards of that municipality .. You can hold your breath until blue in the face ...and as they install the fiber/cable...they will watch you suffocate.! | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: They need to... I should have also added...
it's a pretty bad thing to say, "Ok, I will elt Verizon in because I like them, but Cable, stay out!" Who died and allowed this guy to say who can and can't go in..
It's just moronic in the first place.. you have to let the ones you hate, in, as well, as the ones you like.
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Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| hmm so you protest ugly boxes on the power poles, do you also whine at the power company about those big white things on the poles(aka transformers). far as i know only really rich neighborhoods have buried lines atleast around here everything is on poles, but if a few ugly green boxes is what it takes to give me 15mbit speeds then so be it.
course i live in CT so FIOS will never happen since i doubt Verizon can enter SBC land and well Danbury, CT will see SBC Fiber the day man travels faster then light.
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Love it, Hate it.
join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD | well they could skip them and just install in Baltimore we are not far off | |
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@on.ca | ... "They should probably be thankful, since there's many Fios fanatics in our forums who'd sell their pets and children into bondage for the privilege of a 15Mbps Fios hookup."
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Fredericksburg, VA | Re: ... said by gung ho:
spell check works wonders. and it's sentence,not sentance.
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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| allow me a little hypocrisy said by mglunt :said by gung ho:
spell check works wonders. and it's sentence,not sentance.
Grammar is a great thing too. So is restraint.
For example, one can use "restraint" before criticizing someone's post.
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| do_it1
join:2004-09-23
Fairfax, VA | Re: Lady, stfu! If I had Comcast and fiber was being laid for Fios in my neighborhood, I wouldn't care if my cable went down.  | |
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ke4pym
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | BOOO HOOO Do they honestly not have anything else to bitch about? | |
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Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: BOOO HOOO said by ke4pym :Do they honestly not have anything else to bitch about? I guess it means that they have too much time on their hands.
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join:2003-09-19
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| I don't get it I just don't understand people who don't embrace the Internet. It's weird to me.
I have a brother and cousin, both professional folks, nice houses, and have a POS computer and dial-up, and don't even use the dial up at that.
They wonder why I don't visit more often....
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HawkI911
join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| more true than some would admit... "They should probably be thankful, since there's many Fios fanatics in our forums who'd sell their pets and children into bondage for the privilege of a 15Mbps Fios hookup."
it looks like this holding to be true.
If AOL started digging in every neighbordhood in an effort to supply better quality 56k service to its customers, this board would be flooded with bitches/gripes/and complaints.
....but, since it's fios, i guess it's ok to tell people to suck it up and live with a turned up yard. | |
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join:2002-02-20
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join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | That's because 56k is ancient technology. Future tech. is worth it. | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| The point that I was trying to make was that if some random company was going to tear up your yard for a service you wouldn't use, would you let them? Hell naw...
....and you know after they finish digging, they're not going to leave it like they found it. It's a lot like that commercial (might be a local one) that goes, "the worst thing about getting your car stolen, is getting it back because you know it never comes back the way you left it."
Maybe it's just me and I'm the lunatic on the board.... I dunno... it's just that I've lived in San Antonio for most of my life and we also happen to be the home of the headquarters for SBC. I have a general distrust for them because they're about as shady and crappy as they get. Even to this day, they fail (keep in mind, this is their home turf) to get DSL deployed properly in my neighborhood. A couple of miles up north where some of the SBC execs live in homes much, much more expensive than mine are having the same exact problems with their DSL lines (except they get same day service if the line goes down no matter day of the year it is).
Really, I don't view the local phone company as my friend. When you've had as many problems with them as I have, you would feel the same way.
So I dunno what the deal is, but I won't let SBC dig in my yard no matter what they're deploying. If I need fast internet, I can get Roadrunner at 5 mbps or whatever it is now. Or, I can get back to my dorm room where I live 8 months of the year and get 10 mbps.
I realize this is pretty bitchey, but oh well, that's my story. I have a general distrust for the phone company and anything they do. | |
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Bridgeport, WV
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| Sonds like... All those whiners that live in places like California... They bitch and moan when there are rolling blackouts, but no one ever wants a power plant in their back yard..
Same here.. A lot will piss and moan about work going on in their area.. But once they get the fiber in they will be some of the first to call in and order service...
Everyone wants something but not if it interrupts their lives for a few weeks...
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Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: Sonds like... Exactly! They are all chanting "NIMBY" but they will be the first to make use of the service. | |
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join:2002-02-08
Escondido, CA
| Re: Sonds like... I live in California. Give me a cell tower or two. I'll take the money. I have a friend who's sister has a tower that more than pays her house payment. If SBC wants to deploy fibre, they can put the equipment here too.
I guess that would make me a PIMBY. | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Sounds like someone from the EAST coast not understanding the rolling blackouts...
They didn't occurr from the NIMBY sindrome.. it was because of BAAAAD politics and corruption.
Point taken, but bad example. | |
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BH9 2RJ | fiber in the uk never well i don't think fiber is even being consider to the house in the uk
as much as dsl2 i think is as good as it gets in a few years for us | |
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Real Gamers Dont Use Consoles
join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA
1 edit | Re: fiber in the uk never isnt there already fiber in the UK? or is that just finland/sweden? | |
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thewolfman
join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
clubs: | Are they insane!??! They could ask me to help dig if they were in my area.
Who cares if life is a little disrupted, IT'S FIOS FOR GOD SAKES!!!!! | |
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Safemaster
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join:2004-01-18
Loxahatchee, FL | FIOS Install Hell ! I'll trade my wife in for Fios..Kids are a bonus, and my dog is a gift. | |
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Edrick
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join:2004-09-11
Orlando, FL
| Fios Now for all these people that say well "I" barely use the computer so why should I have to put up with it? Heres a thought im sure back decades ago when they installed Phone service there was lots of problems and people complaning ohh i'll never use this! and look now almost everyone has a phone. So your saying because you don't want to have some work done on your street your city should suffer for the next few years with cable internet while everyone ealse is allready working on Fiber. | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX | Re: Fios Yeah, but at the rate people are getting cell phones and dropping their land lines, you have to wonder... is it even worth it to lay FIOS? | |
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@43.153.x.x | WTF does FIOS have to do with CELLPHONES? Can you get 15m down on your cellphone? Can you play games online like Doom3 on your cellphone? Don't think so. Is your computer hooked up to your CELLPHONE? Didn't think so. | |
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@208.17.x.x | Why really. All you guys drool over FIOS? But for what? What do you actually need those speeds for? Not being a d*ck, its a legit question. | |
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join:2005-05-11
canada
| Re: Why really. said by NarrowBandMan:
All you guys drool over FIOS? But for what? What do you actually need those speeds for? Not being a d*ck, its a legit question.
Once the system is put in, then businesses/websites will be able to up Thier speeds and gain some momentum. Infrastructure comes first, then the use of it. Think about it. Imagine talking on your phone with someone in Germany, while you look at Thier new website online and you trade german shiesta porn movies in less than 20 seconds! | |
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| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Why really. Mana re you guys misled... FIOS is a product, fiber is a technology. Learn the differnce please.
Also, the FIOS product is a residential product.
Here are some points that, obviously, people are missing based on how they post their messages here.
1) FiOS is a residential service. No web servers are allowed on this as is with their DSL product. If the pipes are so big, what are they worried about? Tends to make me wonder just how fragile this service is. This applies to both personal and commercial website and servers. Verizon provides 10mb on their datacenter servers.
2) Speeds are still not guaranteed. I have seen other Fiber deployments and there are times that the 10mb/10mb services do slow down just like cable and DSL can. Many factors still affect the speeds of fiber. Condition of the wiring in the homes, many do have inferior wiring, network or internet congestion, your own computer, and the number of computer or devices using the service)
3) The 5/2 service is $39.99 a month.. not much different than standard DSL except the upload speeds. Also, they STILL, yes, even with the fiber pipe, STIL advertise speeds "UP TO" - how long will it take before people complain that speeds aren't what they advertise like everything else? The 15/2 $49.99 is more expensive than other broadband service.. yet, faster on the DL side, I agree, but what about cox and the 15mb speeds? Comparable? close..
4) What's this I see? Actual throughout speeds will vary? Combine this service with others for a discount? Does classic DSL and Cable modems do the same thing? Have a higher price but discount on bundles? Where's the cries for the humanity that verizon will require bundles to get the "lower" price on their service?
Now, let's not overlook the fact that the phone company, just like cable, does have a BAD history on screwing the customer. Telephone has never been anyones friend or had insentive to until cable came in and threatened their turf. Now all the sudden telephone companies are the saviours? Give me a break. If companies like Time Warner, Cox, Comcast, charter and the such weren't on the heels of telephone, they would still be giving poor service, high prices, etc. Cable isn't on the heels of telephone either, they have passed the telephone companies on every product. Cable has their own TV, the main line, they offer faster internet connections, and they offer a digital telephone service in many areas now. What you have here is a playing field where they are now both forced to compete where compeitition is necessary.
If one wins out over the other, there is no longer incentive to offer you anything... look at Qwest.. Comcast in the Twin Cities has handed their as*es to them on a platter. Why? They listened to what the customer wanted and gave it to them.
Love or hate the cable companies, they are VERY important in the equasion. You SHOULD love them especially when they do bad.. because it forces the telephone companies to work even harder to provide you a better service.. same can be said in return about the telephone companies. I hate Qwest and love them for it.. they drive Comcast and Time Warner to work harder and who wins? We do! | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Antonio, TX
| FIOS would do a better job streaming movies and HDTV streams, but that's about it. Then again, with the popularity of Netflix and it's competitors, I really don't ever see streaming movies taking off as a viable alternative to DVD rentals. There are just too many variables with streaming content. | |
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Real Gamers Dont Use Consoles
join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA | Re: Why really. netflix is working on transferring to be a streaming service (at least that is a rumor I heard, here too i believe). | |
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machater
join:2003-04-30
Turlock, CA
| Wrong area of the country duuude The problem is the area they are doing this in. Verizon should be installing in California where this can be appreciated let alone understood instead of suburban areas in the east cost where they have no clue what this is all about.
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lenknermj
join:2000-10-04
Pittsburgh, PA
| Sitting here laughing at some of you...
1. For those of you who complained about it, saying that you're not all "Gung-ho" about the internet....what are you doing at a website that's about NOTHING BUT speed on the internet?
2. I'd trade my cat, but I love my daughter...I'm keeping her. You CAN, however, have my wife.
3. The part of Pittsburgh where I live has overhead wires, and OUR FIOS is going to be installed pole-to-house above-ground. So, I'm getting FIOS, AND keep my lush, weedless, beautiful green grass. =) I do believe a "neener neener neener" is in order here. =)
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| Re: Sitting here laughing at some of you... so why aren't they doing that everywhere i just cant see how the are going to be digging everyones yard for here in Socal there is no reason for them to do that considering that everything here is either cement or close to it not that much room left for any new buildings/house string that shit i dont care just get it to me. All i know is the Verizon is sure taking there sweet as time to finish Huntington Beach by the time there done i wont be surprised if TimeWarner got there act going and stops hiding the upload speed. | |
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join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| Hell I'd kill for 768k! Stop being babies, let them dig for god sakes. I'd run down the road naked for a whole day just for 768k. Im tired of this 56k, and not beign able to play on Xbox live. VERIZON GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE AND GIVE ME SOME FIOS! Just the thought of ISDN, would make me happy but no I can't get ISDN, IDSL, DSL, CABLE, Stop being babies and let them install consider yourselves to be the lucky people in Verizon land. Theres tons of people like me in verizon land, Who think they like to pull the wool over your eyes and lie about shit. But I'd kill for 768k! | |
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join:2005-05-04
Morrisville, PA
| Love my FiOS One of the 1st 50 to get it in my community. It is awesome!!! Hope all of you get it soon. Installer said we should be getting tv by December. Comcast really is squirming. When you call them they give you the cable is better deal. Of course they are comparing it to dsl. When I said that it wasn't dsl but fiber, the comcast rep could not answer. How great is that. | |
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| cry babies it seems like anytime theres an update or things become different you will ALWAYS have a group of people complaning about it no matter if it helps them in the future or not..here comcast has gone DOWN the drain with their download speeds and its been over 3 months if i saw fios workers id pass out with exicitment | |
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Fried Rice
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join:2005-05-18
Athens, GA | Self installation? Wouldn't it be great if you could buy a "install-it-yourself kit"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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| I could understand If you live in a neighborhood with underground utilities and your nice, neatly-manicured, lush, gren lawn got dug up just so the neighbor's spoiled brat could download warez and MP3's and play games. If you received no benefit from it, of course it would seem like Verizon was taking over the area.
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
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join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC
| Ohhhh that's just Awful! Awww poor little babies. Your green green yards being turned upside down with big piles of dirt here and there. And Ohhhh the noisy machinery having to listen to it all day and worst of all when you try to sleep in you can't. As other have said, I wonder how many of them will be the signing up first chance they get for services?
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This Aint No Rag... It's A Flag.
join:2002-05-09
Franklin, NC | Re: Ohhhh that's just Awful! I'd let them tear down my damn house if it meant getting fiber access. Priorities, people... priorities.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
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| Re: Ohhhh that's just Awful! this is probably the people that manicure their lawns
id love to be one of those guys and just break their sewage main and just let it make a nice pool in the yard:D
you cant make an omelet without breaking a few eggs
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join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Ohhhh that's just Awful! U have people who rather read a novel and shit at the same time than get internet services at there location so whats the point lol.. | |
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