wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Do you hear that?
Sounds like a ship going down to me!
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Now THATS superfluous!! |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA | The only good QWEST is a bankrupt QWEST
the sooner that ship sinks the better!!!! |
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | Below market prices?
Qwest is suing because Utopia is selling fiber for below market prices? Hey Qwest a monopoly is NOT a market! |
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DSL Oberst
join:2001-11-29 | Ah, but are they cutting Qwest lines? That would be interesting to know. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| Yet another strike against government run Internet
You would think the people running Utopia would have made sure their project got sovereign immunity so that it would be immune from BS lawsuits like these. How much are taxpayers now going to have to fork over to deal with this lawsuit?
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Hey Fast Eddie... you're next! |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to DSL Oberst
Re: Below market prices?
said by DSL Oberst  :Ah, but are they cutting Qwest lines? That would be interesting to know. Probably, but that is the cost of any type of construction. That's just the way it goes. |
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bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
Premium
join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: Do you hear that?
Seems to me they ought to focus their attorneys’ efforts on the SEC lawsuits/settlements. But after MCI turned 'em down, I guess their desperate need for cash flow has let them to another takeover target...UTOPIA.
Would you like Nachios with that? |
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woodward
XMission Broadband
VIP
join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT
| reply to DSL Oberst
Re: Below market prices?
said by DSL Oberst :Ah, but are they cutting Qwest lines? That would be interesting to know. Yes, there was a fairly major outage last week in the city of Murray (a suburb of Salt Lake City) that took out a large section of the phone service for about a day. Turned out that UTOPIA crews cut the lines. |
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NetDroid2
join:2004-08-16
Excelsior, MN
| Thats Qwest for You
Isn't this what Qwest always does?
Complain about something that is better than what they offer but but do absolutely nothing to improve it.
Actually now that I think about it almost all the big companies fighting the "Monopoly" of fiber and WI-FI do.
But really what DSL provider still offers 256/256 as a broadband choice? Are there any? |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to woodward
Re: Below market prices?
The determining factor though is UTOPIA non-descriminantly cutting lines? If they are wacking away at power, CATV, and gas lines, then they should be fine. 
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| reply to bistro777
Re: Do you hear that?
said by bistro777 :Seems to me they ought to focus their attorneys’ efforts on the SEC lawsuits/settlements. But after MCI turned 'em down, I guess their desperate need for cash flow has let them to another takeover target...UTOPIA. Would you like Nachios with that? If thats their plan wouldnt it make more sense for Qwest to let them finish building the network first?? At least that way they can offer some real fiber based services!! BTW, what the hell is up with Qwest's 1.5M fiber "service"? It looks like The Marketing Moron(new superhero) has struck again!!
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Now THATS superfluous!! |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
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"DUUUHHRRR, I am the marketing guy at Qwest! Why would anyone want more than a 1.5M connection? Lets just spend a few million dollars building a fiber network and then do nothing with it! DUUHHHRRR!! I must be the smartest guy in the world!!!
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Now THATS superfluous!! |
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ricep5
Premium
join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
·AT&T CallVantage
·VoicePulse
·Comcast Formerly ..
| The "Poles"
Qwest may own the poles as determined in the original consent decree for the AT&T breakup, however, they are required to share the poles with other utilities (ie: cable) using agreements within each municipality.
SBC tried to kick cable companies off their poles in Illinois by charging an outrageous attachment fee when a Comcast predecessor started offering telephone service. It failed and SBC stopped trying.
The poles as such reside on public right of way and therefore the local government determines their fate, even though a utility may own them outright. What may be bugging Qwest is that UTOPIA got permission to use them and they didn't show up for the hearing for the permits. |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | Time to sell
I'd be selling my Qwest stock right about now... Buh bye Qwest. |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Get over it...
Private schools have no problem competing with public schools...
UPS, DHL and FedEx compete with the USPS...
Private hospitals compete with public ones...
Private transportation companies compete with public transit...
And all do just fine (except our local private hospitals that are overrun with illegals who don't pay)....
Fact is there are a number of industries that DIRECTLY compete with government and do just fine.
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Life is good without the headache of Comcrap HSI |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | reply to pnh102
Re: Yet another strike against government run Internet
There is no sovereign immunity from corporate run state and Federal government.
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Life is good without the headache of Comcrap HSI |
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Poopsmith
That's Mr. Smith To You.
join:2003-03-12
Boulder, CO | reply to oliphant
Re: Get over it...
"and unfair competitive practices"
I think the word "unfair" can be taken out of the article, and the same point comes across.
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judasrising
join:2004-08-27
| Bone heads
I don't get why Qwest has limited fiber and vdsl in certain areas and caps it at 1.5mb. Then they offer voip and charge $30 plus 5 cent long distance. Somebody over there needs to get with it. How can you compete when you make bone head decisions like that. Spend the money on the infrastructure and then set it up so that nobody wants it. |
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Monkeydoo
join:2003-11-19
Angola, IN
| reply to NetDroid2
Re: Thats Qwest for You
Wow. I mean is this shocking? Who really didn't see this coming.
I find it amazing how they don't take notice of an area, unless somebody else starts doing something good. Seems like now-a-days big companies have more lawyers then anything.
Its so sad how much money a year they spend in just legal battles, in courts, and other shady practices. If they would just put that money to better uses, we wouldn't have to worry about munis trying to provide, because we would all have great service already. |
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yeti34
RC Onroad racin
join:2001-04-12
Salt Lake City, UT
| All for Fiber broadband!!
I live in one of these future city fiber upgrades and I fully welcome it. I dropped Qwest phone service awhile back and have not looked back. I want the faster internet access that Qwest can not provide. Utopia, just hurry up and get it to West Valley City please!!! |
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