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Comments on news posted 2005-07-07 09:37:13: Broadband over power line (BPL) hardware maker Current Communications says Google and others have invested $100 million in the company. Current is currently operating the largest BPL deployment in the country in Cincinnati, which aims to pass 250.. ..

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Aquaman1940

join:2004-08-10
Chesapeake, VA
 2 Questions

What speeds can this get you again? I thought that this was mocked when it first came out.?


meskinct
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Quarter millon homes? That's it?

"which aims to pass 250,000 homes in three years"

When compared to FIoS and other projects such as SBC's Lightspeed (18 million) this is small potatoes.


Rob
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said by meskinct See Profile:

"which aims to pass 250,000 homes in three years"

When compared to FIoS and other projects such as SBC's Lightspeed (18 million) this is small potatoes.
I think 250K in regards to the subscribers themselves. Since it's over powerlines, it can quickly be added to every area and supported. Maybe it'll force DSL companies to expand their networks so they provide DSL to rural areas.
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doppler

join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY

What a waste of money

Unless the FCC rules are re-written to null and
void all interference issues. BPL can't work.

All the "BPL test case failures" around the world.
Should be an example to why BPL can't work.

No matter how you candy-coat BPL. It just doesn't work.


nekkidtruth
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reply to Aquaman1940
Re: 2 Questions

said by Aquaman1940 See Profile:

I thought that this was mocked when it first came out.?
Isn't that more of a statement?
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click_310
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join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA

 G interference


G interference
G interference

ke4pym

join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
reply to doppler
Re: What a waste of money

Isn't one of Google's internal mottos "Do no harm"?

AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

reply to doppler
No its not a waste of money. Rural areas have no broadband other than WildBlue and the like which is more expensive and very latent.

USA needs a big push for broadband in the rural underserved areas. For the average urban and suburban area, BPL can also freely compete HOWEVER the free marketplaces as of now mean that BPL wont be competitive offering.


Shack

join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN
reply to nekkidtruth
Re: 2 Questions

quote:
Isn't that more of a statement?
No, you can word it as a question in that way. It implies questioning your own impression of something.


Shack

join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN
reply to AJ023
Re: What a waste of money

Unfortunatly it seems from what I have noticed that these BPL rollouts are not in the underserved areas.


Varlik
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Loss of Prospective

Or just more of it, since they've gone public. That's what happens when you have suits running the show. Why don't they invest in minks or Clydesdale's while their at it.
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apsinkus

join:2002-06-25
Chicago, IL
Oh boy, here go the HAMs again. Like pitbulls and a piece of meat and their God-like know-it-all attitude.

N3EVL

join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA

Anything definitive on Interference at Cincinnati?

I had heard positive things regarding the apparent lack of interference to HF at the Cincinnati test site but seem to remember reading a posting recently from someone in the affected area stating that the interference was present and significant. Does anyone have definitive info regarding interference at this location?

Maybe it was this hardware/location that was limiting itself to low VHF and/or notching the amateur bands. I don't have much use for the notching approach since it just pushes the problem into someone else's domain (assuming it even works). I also doubt that all users of this hardware will forever limit themselves to a relatively narrow chunk of spectrum - they'll eventually want/need the HF part for additional bandwidth - then watch the complaints surface!

I always though Google was a technically savvy organization but this decision makes me wonder - I hope they know what they're getting into with this technology.


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Re: Loss of Prospective

..-. --- .-. -.- ..-

I'm a HAM. Picture this - You are authorized to use a spectrum. Is it really right for someone to just transmit right over you? I'm sure if they were using a frequency used by radio or TV you would see a lot more bitching. At least the HAMs are trying to work with the BPL providers.

Don't blame me, you are the one who brought it up.
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CPM

join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL

Google's First Lost.

Well, Well. Looks like Google will be getting it's first $100 million lost. They should just stick to a search engine.

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reply to apsinkus
Re: Loss of Prospective

You are so right...how dare those Hams have the exclusive rights to the "Laws of Physics"! How dare these Hams, many who are professionally and largely well-versed in physics and radio propagations, share their knowledge- thus appearing as "G-dlike know-it-alls" to the lesser-informed!

If folks want to be misguided by the promises of BPL and if the Google suits want to ignore these silly "Laws of Physics", they can simply write a company policy canceling them and ask the public to ignore them by completely denying them at press conferences.

We all know that the BPL proponents have been completely honest about the nature of pushing radio waves across unshielded power lines. If they say it's great technology, with non-evasive propagation and will be swiftly and economically deployed with the specific purpose of rewarding rural areas with broadband, who is ANYONE to doubt or challenge their promise? How dare any naysayer bring the hurtful truth to the table? And the nerve of anyone to present hard data against broadband being sent over power lines or the failed attempts and discontinued trials throughout the world.

Apparently for some, if you do not sway to a popular belief fed to a largely misinformed public, you are a nuisance and an annoyingly rabid truth-teller.

And, for those who can't read the fine details- Ham Radio operators, the NTIA, and many other radio-driven public/commercial/military/hobbyist services are NOT against ANYONE having access to broadband. That would be a silly, myopic and rabid stand to take. They are specifically deeply concerned about the inherent and presently indelible interference to local and worldwide radio communications- whether or not others are unaware, disinterested or indifferent to how this may potentially impact on them or others.

Sigh...

Rob


ib50MbSoon
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reply to apsinkus
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Oh boy, here go the HAMs again. Like pitbulls and a piece of meat and their God-like know-it-all attitude.
LOL! No worries though, BPL can be easily deployed now. If any HAMs complain about neighborhood interference, the local municipality can use its new eminent domain powers to remove the troublemakers from the community. God bless the liberal left.

clickie

join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
reply to apsinkus
At least they KNOW something, as opposed to you who wouldn't know their butt from a doughnut.


djrobx

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vernalex
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reply to ib50MbSoon
Liberal left?

What does that have to do with the "liberal left"?
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