Cloud Strife
join:2003-09-10
Ironton, OH | hmmmm
Conspiracy theorists take your free shot... |
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deadzoned
Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
 ·Cox HSI
| Heh
There is no conspiracy theory. It's all fact and it's right there for you to read. It's sad that people can't see the big picture here. The bottom line is that Big Business will continue to hinder any effort to deploy real broadband unless we play by their rules. If they ever do deploy we will pay for it, probably many times over.
Like there ever was a doubt that they were not skewed...Everything can be bought if the price is right. You just have to find the magical sweet spot.  |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| reply to Cloud Strife
Re: hmmmm
Oh yes. Data Integrity is priority number one to politicians these days.
The idea Uncle Sam would doll up data to support pro-corporate policies is just oh-so totally crazy. Like oh, crop circles! |
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MacGyver
Bell Sucks
Premium,ExMod 2003-05
join:2001-10-14
Orleans, ON | reply to Cloud Strife
Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics
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klubbz
@verizon.ne | true broadband
"How many of you would consider a 200kbps asymmetrical connection true broadband?"
what else would you call it? Dial-Up? |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to Cloud Strife
Re: hmmmm
said by Cloud Strife  :Conspiracy theorists take your free shot... No conspiracy theories. But I'm sure will get the usual litany of responses along the lines that all regulations are bad, anything Corporate America does is wonderful and sucessful, and if the FCC has to rely on bogus statistics such as zip code penetration to make it appear so, then so be it.
And anyone who disagrees is a liberal-commie-pinko-godless-gun-hating-Clinton-lover. And if you want broadband so bad, just move. |
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dsl_joe
@ipltin.ameritech
thumbs down from:
John Galt
|  Obvious
FCC under RNC control?
That's right the White House is a
propaganda machine so having the FCC
under its control would be logical.
Only a Republican Robot would think otherwise. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| 200kbs
Some people don't want 1.5-6 megs of service. They want the cheapest connection possible even if it's only 4-5 times faster than dial-up.
But if you want to get technical on what constitutes broadband then you have to go back to the drawingboard since broadband technically means something other than what a lot of people use it to mean. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Universal access by 2007?
OK, I've finally realized how this is going to be "accomplished". The FCC will just continue to rely on the zip code metric: once every zip code contains at least once household with broadband availability, they will consider broadband to be "universally available". Never mind that there will be many zip codes like mine, where most of the area is unserved. The FCC will declare victory, and most mainstream media journalists will just take it at face value. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | reply to MacGyver
Re: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics
Figures don't lie.......but you can lie with figures.  |
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LoneGreyWolf
Premium
join:2002-09-09
Bath, NY
clubs: 
| reply to PDXPLT
Re: hmmmm
"And if you want broadband so bad, just move."
Don't you just love that statement? Just move huh? They act like everyone in the world can just pack up there things and move as it were just as easy as going down to the corner store.
I know you didn't actually say this PDXPLT, and that it was just sarcasm, but I had to comment on it... lol! |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | reply to klubbz
Re: true broadband
i call it "getting ripped off"! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| ZIP Code metric not unreasonable
The FCC's ZIP Code metric wasn't an accurate way of measuring broadband availability before cellular providers could offer usable connection speeds though their phones. However, with more providers (Sprint and Verizon) offering higher speed wireless connections, it might now be possible to say if one person in a ZIP Code could get such service, then all people could.
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Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! |
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haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA | True Broadband is a moving target
At this point I would consider anything below a 3/512 connection "True" broadband. Charter Communications are you listening.
By this time next year 5/1
In two years 7/2
In three years 10/5
In Ten years 1000/1000 |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| reply to pnh102
Re: ZIP Code metric not unreasonable
3G wireless technologies are only just now being deployed, and only in major markets. Sprint's EVDO technology is barely launched. Unlimited data plans cost in excess of $80. Rural or even secondary urban markets will not be served any-time soon.
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it might now be possible to say if one person in a ZIP Code could get such service, then all people could.
It's also possible to say dumptrucks have feelings. That wouldn't make it true. |
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btpull
Premium
join:2004-04-27
| Let Technology Solve the Problem
The roll of government is to provide and protect public goods. Broadband is Not a public good. With that out of the way the broadband penetration issue will be easily solved by allowing the up and coming technologies to develop and prosper.
These technologies include Mesh networks, WiMax, Satellite, power lines, and EV-DO. If the government interferes the margins for implementing these technologies will shrink and kill the new markets; sticking us with slow DSL and cable options forever. |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| 200k is Broadband to me.
I'd love to get 200k, I'd love to be able to get any type of broadband. Why dont you guys do a report on New Braintree, MA? sure a few people can get DSL, but most of us are fu*ked.  I want DSL. |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | reply to klubbz
Re: true broadband
I consider it, Xbox live. 200k means Xbox live to me. If I had 200k I'd become a hobbit. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to LoneGreyWolf
Re: hmmmm
Your home doesnt have wheels? I thought all homes were like mine. They are in my neck of the wood.  |
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IT Guy
Ow, My Balls
Premium
join:2004-07-29
Las Cruces, NM
clubs: | reply to klubbz
Re: true broadband
I'd call it a step higher than an ISDN connection. |
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