Shrapnel64
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join:2001-01-24
Hayes, VA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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1 edit | Wow...
Wow, what extremes will people go to, to waste other peoples time and money.
Let them call me when my mother or father dies about some credit card verification, to sell me something, or just something I don't plainly feel like listening to. I'll slap a damn lawsuit on them and they won't get a $1 fee.
It's ashamed that if you tell someone to take you off their list, or that they are now deceased that they will charge a $1 fee to the survivor (or other relative, person) to remove them.
I feel that telemarketers (90%) are a waste of time and money. If I want to buy something, or figure out if something exist, I will on a want-to-know basis search the internet for their product. If their product does not show up, then they need to reorganize their marketing strategy and quit cold-calling me on the phone during business hours or during supper!
How do you think you'd feel if someone called you during your dinner? (Pointed towards telemarketers) |
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yoonix
Floating Taco Of Doom
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join:2001-03-27
Teaneck, NJ | What about the living?
So how can they verify if a person is really deceased? I wouldn't mind paying a dollar to never get a telemarketing call again. |
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@qwest.net | reply to Shrapnel64
Re: Wow...
here, let me sweep the streets so there won't be any more nails to get flat tires as well |
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Boomerang86
Got FUD?
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join:2002-10-18
VampireState
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·RoadRunner Cable
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·Time Warner VOIP
| Gotta love the DMA and their logic!
I'm already registered with the DNC list and the DMA, but I probably didn't need to as I use Vonage exclusively and I've been spared so far, for the most part.
Any incoming calls I get now have to pass the "Do I know that number?" test; If the Call ID display shows anything other than a number or name I recognize, I let voicemail answer that call. If it's someone I know and it's really important they usually leave a message. I haven't taken a call from a telemarketer in YEARS; this method is very efficient. |
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ff1324
Everybody Goes Home
Premium
join:2002-08-24
On Four Day
| Wow that's cheap...
$1.00? That's all? Hell, I can't even call Aunt Patty in Oregon for that price!
But seriously folks, if they want their dollar to stop calling dead people, tell them to send the person a BILL. The can correespond with them at deadperson@heaven.org.
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | Slime all around.
AFAIAC the Direct Marketing Association is in the same category as spammers. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| Question for those on the National DNC list...
I've been on the PA DNC list since day on and have only received a handful of calls from telemarketers (each of whom I've reported; and so far have made a couple hundred bucks off of doing so  )
Anyway I noticed in that second article that the groups are lobbying to have the the laws from 5 states with stricter DNC regulations invalidated. Is anyone on the DNC list from any state other than Indiana, Florida, New Jersey, Wisconsin and North Dakota receiving many calls from Telemarketers?
The article insinuated that the DNC laws nationally and in the other states are largely ineffective, which I think is BS, but it might be just me.
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Misfits lost in the dryer, take heart
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD | How much would you wager . . .
that some DMA marketing droid got this idea from Yahoo's recent troubles? |
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo
·Skype
| reply to Shrapnel64
Re: Wow...
I read earlier the $1 charge was for "credit card verification" or confirmation or some similar BS. Funny, I've seen sites verify a credit card before without needing to put a charge on it. How about charging the $1 and then after "verification" giving it back? How many people die in the U.S. every year? Couple million at least? That's a lot of potential income.
My response to the morons the DNC doesn't cover (i.e. E.B.E., Charity, "Surveys", and Political) is a little standalone PC with answering machine software. I can blacklist CID info at will so when they call, it tells them that "your information has been blacklisted and no further calls will be accepted from you". It also handles those limbo "unknown" callers with a similar message but an option to leave a message in the event it's a legit call. If they gut the DNC, guess my AMPC will just get a little more work--and my messages will get nastier.
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When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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|  Unf*ckingbelievable
It's the same shit different day with these people. They don't get that consumers don't want to be bothered just like the spammers and the malware/spyware assholes don't get that people just don't want their shit. With the exception of the named states in the MSNBC piece, there are sufficient loopholes for the DMA to drive a bus through since buying a cup of coffee is enough to constitute a business relationship. What more does the DMA want.
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steelyken
join:2002-03-04
Plainfield, IN | They don't care whether you want the calls or not. As is the case with spam, they are after that fraction of a percent that will respond to their marketing pitch. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to major marco
said by major marco  :...there are sufficient loopholes for the DMA to drive a bus through since buying a cup of coffee is enough to constitute a business relationship. Well heres my question, how come I don't receive more calls? I'm not saying that there aren't people on the DNC list that are still receiving significant numbers of calls, but I'm struggling to find anybody who has.
And I've also been on the other side of the table; I was a manager at a call center for a mail order company; I fielded several calls from customers who put their names on the national DNC list and were informing me that my company was in violation of the law because the billing department called them to attempt to collect on a bill they owed. It appears to me that if they lived in any of those states that they were correct.
Either way I do agree that "previous business relationship" needs to be broken down into smaller categories; ie:
casual relationship - you buying a cup of coffee from Starbuck's
active relationship - you owing money to your bank
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ROCINANTE 2112
Original Member 007
join:1999-06-29
Hartsdale, NY
clubs: | Just Block It
Get voip with number blocking.
Block the appropriate numbers.
Look at your call logs.
Laugh at all the times they try to call and get blocked.
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CRUNCH THIS!
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Unregistered user
| Hit them where they live
If the DMA wants to weaken DNC lists, then one way to fight them is to promote the national DNC list as widely as possible. Believe it or not, there are many people still not using it, many of whom, in my experience, have either not heard of it or who just haven't thought about registering for it. The more people get listed, the fewer people these scumbags will have to call, and the more of them will lose their jobs. Since I've been on the list, the only calls I've received were from one of those credit repair scam companies, which I reported, and which subsequently got spanked hard by the FTC and immediately stopped calling. That's been something like a year ago, and I've received no more calls. My parents were also getting bombarded until I got them on the list, then their calls stopped cold.
So I guess I'll get the ball rolling by putting a sig on my e-mails and discussion board posts, and I'd encourage others to do the same. Here's the vital info to use as you wish.
National Do Not Call Registry
»www.donotcall.gov
1-888-382-1222 |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | So if I pay $1, I'm off the list for life?
... that sounds like a deal! |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
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What a joke
This reminds me of a incident that happened several decades ago. Charlie Chaplin who was living in Switzerland at the time died of old age. His family buried him and shortly there after grave robbers dug up and hauled the body off and told the family if they didn't pay X number of bucks they where never going to see him again. The family collectively told these crooks they where not going to pay a dime for a dead body and that they could have him. His body at home in the coffin he was buried in was found dumped along side the road a couple of years later.
This is how I feel about this one dollar one time charge.
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Unregistered user
| reply to steelyken
Re: Unf*ckingbelievable
Precisely. Which means that, as more people's numbers become off-limits to them because of either state or national DNC lists, they have three choices:
1. Employ the same number of people, who will be calling a shrinking pool of people more and more often.
2. Lay off people to compensate for the declining number of people left to call.
3. Fight the lists.
The first option isn't a good choice, since it will certainly alienate the people being called. It's true that telemarketers may not care if they annoy people, but that only goes so far. If they annoy them too much, those people may put themselves on a DNC list, which puts them off-limits to telemarketers entirely.
Option 2 may seem like the obvious solution. As the pool of potential customers dries up, lay off people and scale down. Great in theory, except no industry will voluntarily make itself smaller. And you know that the DMA doesn't want this, as fewer companies means less money in membership dues and less influence.
This brings us to option 3, which is what they're doing. They tried to stop the national DNC but failed, so they're going after tougher state lists. How much this will help them is uncertain, since they're basically trying to gain a little breathing room.
Like I said in another post, the best way to fight them, besides opposing this rule change, is to shrink their pool of available numbers as rapidly as possible. I'm guessing that most people here are on the DNC list, but if you aren't, get on it. If you are, encourage those you know to also get on it. Expanding the number of people on the list is the best way to hurt these scumbags. |
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DiscardedVet
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join:2005-04-06
Sturgis, SD
1 edit | What Am I Missing Here?
My parents pass on, the house is sold, the phone disconnected.
Who is going to be called when the phone is dead?
I'm to pay a dollar to have a now non-existent number put on a do-not-call list?
Is my logic getting rusty?
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raccettura
join:2002-09-28
USA
| Talking Dirty to telemarketers
Everybody should do like I do:
when they call you, talk really sexually explicit to them.
I tell them where I want to stick things, what I'm touching, etc. etc. And ask them to keep talking because i find their voice erotic.
Funny thing: they don't call that often. |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
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Shame on you |
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