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Comments on news posted 2005-07-28 16:35:25: "We're not a telephone company anymore; I sort of resent that,” says Lea Ann Champion, an executive at SBC in charge of Project Lightspeed. “We're a communications and entertainment company. ..

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jarablue
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Worcester, MA
Yeah ok

Keep talking. So far SBC has done jack shit. All they do is run their mouth. Hurry up and deploy your 'next gen' network. Yeah right.


DaMaGeINC
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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What?

What is this site talking about. NONE OF THIS STUFF IS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE... So why all this hype, this isent japan and HK that actaully have this.


oliphant
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It's certainly no wonder...

POTS is taxed to death...at least in my case resulting in nearly doubling the cost of my service.

Verizon charges
VERIZON BASIC SERVICE
MONTHLY SERVICE - BASIC (Jul 13 to Aug 13)
Description Qty Unit Rate
Residence line - measured rate 1 10.00 10.00
Interstate Subscriber Line Charge 1 6.50 6.50
Total $ 16.50
LOCAL CALLS
Local Call Summary (Jun 23 to Jul 13)
Call No. of Rate per No. of Rate per
area Period Init min. Init min. add'l add'l min.

Local Day 8am-5pm 0 .0000 0 .0000 .00
Evening 5pm-11pm 1 .0280 5 .0070 .05
Night 11pm-8am 2 .0160 3 .0040 .04
Sat/Sun All day Included in Night charges
Subtotal .09
Usage Allowance CR .09
Total $ .00
With this plan your Usage Allowance is a maximum of $3.00.
Additional credit for the Usage Allowance may display under
Zone Unit Charges.

Calls billed to 951 xxx-xxxx

BASIC SERVICE TAXES AND SURCHARGES
Federal excise tax at 3.00% .52
Funding to support the Public Utilities Commission .01
911 State Tax .07
Temporary surcharge as allowed by Public Utilities Commission CR .12
California Relay Service and Communications Devices Fund .03
CA High Cost Fund - B .24
California Teleconnect Fund surcharge .02
CA Universal Lifeline Telephone Service .15
CA High Cost Fund - A .01
Federal Universal Service Fee .67
Total $ 1.60
Verizon basic charges $ 18.10

So on a $10 bill I have $8.10 in taxes and fees.


Nate425
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Charlottesville, VA
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uhh, did you mean to have your phone number in there?

EDIT: I guess you caught it the same time I did...


oliphant
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Caught that right after I posted it.


Toadman
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join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
reply to oliphant
You're doing good, here in Ohio their local service starts around $18.00 and with taxes it is $28.00. Thats basic phone, no extras, no LD.

jstack

join:2001-12-09
South San Francisco, CA
reply to jarablue
Re: Yeah ok

SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it. They're all talk.


oliphant
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reply to Toadman
Re: It's certainly no wonder...

That doesn't include the 10% fund everyone else's service (FUSF) fee I have to pay on my DSL (in addition to the one I pay on POTS). On a bill that should by all intents and purposes be $45 it's closer to $55. Where else do we see 22% tax on services? Telco taxes and fees suck. It's just an easy buck or ten for greedy government.


machater

join:2003-04-30
Turlock, CA
reply to jarablue
Re: Yeah ok

Oh so they are not a telephone company any more... I guess that excuses them for having crappy service


ArchAngel21x
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Lincoln, NE
reply to oliphant
Re: It's certainly no wonder...

Damn. Now we can't call you and scream what's up. Thanks killjoy.


SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
reply to oliphant
Make sure all of those fees are actual Government charges and not just fees for "special funds" like the USF and stuff. There still isn't any accountability on what happens to any of those charges.


TKJunkMail
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reply to jstack
Re: Yeah ok

said by jstack See Profile:

SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it. They're all talk.
Most of the telcos, apparently except Verizon and Fios, are all talk when delivering these new projects. It would be nice to see one of them actually deliver something for a change.
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oliphant
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reply to SRFireside
Re: It's certainly no wonder...

It's both. Some fees are expected like 9-1-1 but "Funding to support the Public Utilities Commission"...where did the other $100 billion the state collected in taxes go?

Here in California, many things they have to call funds and fees when they're actually taxes because of certain approval requirements that are required to pass an actual tax. By calling it a fee the legislature doesn't need 2/3 majority to pass it.


djrobx

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reply to jstack
Re: Yeah ok

quote:
SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it.
My 6mbps DSL circuit that's working 29,000 feet from the CO thanks to Pronto, disagrees with you.
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calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

At last--an admission that SBC resents competition

said by DoofusBellHead:

"We're not a telephone company anymore; I sort of resent that,” says Lea Ann Champion, an executive at SBC in charge of Project Lightspeed.
TRANSLATION: "We got fat, dumb, and happy providing a necessity under a paid-off governmental monopoly. I really resent having to compete and actually work for my paycheck."

This quote is a perfect example of why the incumbents, whose only real skill is to buy off legislators and regulators, will continually fail to meet the needs of the marketplace.

The fact that Big Ed Whitacre would even tolerate such an idiotic attitude within his company is bizarre. The fact that he places such a dinosaur in charge of Project Lightspeed says far more about his true intentions (and business acumen) than any press release.

calvoiper
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Duo Maxwell
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join:2003-03-31
Racine, WI
reply to Nate425
Re: It's certainly no wonder...

What was that number lol. I get 2 hours of long distance free that I never use, may as well harass someone lol.


hayabusa3303
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i have seen it all.

Only telco deploying anything like this is verzion. Im in bellsouth land. I will see this in what 20 years from now?
i cant even get dsl.

I think SBC wants to lobby for some money so we flip the bill( us taxpayers).

Mr Dip

join:2005-02-28
Lisle, IL

reply to djrobx
Re: Yeah ok

said by djrobx See Profile:

quote:
SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it.
My 6mbps DSL circuit that's working 29,000 feet from the CO thanks to Pronto, disagrees with you.
My 144k IDSL across the street from the Pronto RT disagrees with YOU! In the meantime, my VOD and HD cable agrees with jstack.

b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
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death of the landline?

Not me, I will give up my land line when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers!

Maybe in another decade or so I will trust VOIP and Cellular to work in an emergency situation. As it is right now neither one is reliable enough to risk my family just to save $20 a month.

jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

reply to djrobx
Re: Yeah ok

I doubt you are running off the CO from that distance. Probably an RT closer to you.

One person happy with the 'next gen' service... out of millions of customers. Anyone else?

To tell you the truth letting a 'few' get the faster 6mb/s connection for the same price as the 3mb/s while others are left in the dark is just unfair. If I had known about it less then a month before I signed up for DSL, I MAY have been able to get it.

Untill at least 10mb/1mb is released, I wont be entirely satisfied. I would like to do some fast transfers between work/home/friends. So far that doesn't happen.
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