  jarablue Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11 Worcester, MA | Yeah ok
Keep talking. So far SBC has done jack shit. All they do is run their mouth. Hurry up and deploy your 'next gen' network. Yeah right. |
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  DaMaGeINC The Lan Man Premium join:2002-06-08 Greenville, SC clubs: | What?
What is this site talking about. NONE OF THIS STUFF IS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE... So why all this hype, this isent japan and HK that actaully have this. |
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  oliphant I Have 8 Boobies Premium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA
1 edit | It's certainly no wonder...
POTS is taxed to death...at least in my case resulting in nearly doubling the cost of my service.
Verizon charges VERIZON BASIC SERVICE MONTHLY SERVICE - BASIC (Jul 13 to Aug 13) Description Qty Unit Rate Residence line - measured rate 1 10.00 10.00 Interstate Subscriber Line Charge 1 6.50 6.50 Total $ 16.50 LOCAL CALLS Local Call Summary (Jun 23 to Jul 13) Call No. of Rate per No. of Rate per area Period Init min. Init min. add'l add'l min.
Local Day 8am-5pm 0 .0000 0 .0000 .00 Evening 5pm-11pm 1 .0280 5 .0070 .05 Night 11pm-8am 2 .0160 3 .0040 .04 Sat/Sun All day Included in Night charges Subtotal .09 Usage Allowance CR .09 Total $ .00 With this plan your Usage Allowance is a maximum of $3.00. Additional credit for the Usage Allowance may display under Zone Unit Charges.
Calls billed to 951 xxx-xxxx
BASIC SERVICE TAXES AND SURCHARGES Federal excise tax at 3.00% .52 Funding to support the Public Utilities Commission .01 911 State Tax .07 Temporary surcharge as allowed by Public Utilities Commission CR .12 California Relay Service and Communications Devices Fund .03 CA High Cost Fund - B .24 California Teleconnect Fund surcharge .02 CA Universal Lifeline Telephone Service .15 CA High Cost Fund - A .01 Federal Universal Service Fee .67 Total $ 1.60 Verizon basic charges $ 18.10
So on a $10 bill I have $8.10 in taxes and fees. |
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  Nate425 Premium join:2005-02-03 Charlottesville, VA clubs: 1 edit | uhh, did you mean to have your phone number in there?
EDIT: I guess you caught it the same time I did... |
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  oliphant I Have 8 Boobies Premium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA | Caught that right after I posted it. |
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  Toadman How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28 Medina, OH | reply to oliphant You're doing good, here in Ohio their local service starts around $18.00 and with taxes it is $28.00. Thats basic phone, no extras, no LD. |
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 jstack
join:2001-12-09 South San Francisco, CA | reply to jarablue Re: Yeah ok
SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it. They're all talk. |
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  oliphant I Have 8 Boobies Premium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to Toadman Re: It's certainly no wonder...
That doesn't include the 10% fund everyone else's service (FUSF) fee I have to pay on my DSL (in addition to the one I pay on POTS). On a bill that should by all intents and purposes be $45 it's closer to $55. Where else do we see 22% tax on services? Telco taxes and fees suck. It's just an easy buck or ten for greedy government. |
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  machater
join:2003-04-30 Turlock, CA | reply to jarablue Re: Yeah ok
Oh so they are not a telephone company any more... I guess that excuses them for having crappy service |
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  ArchAngel21x MacFan Pro Premium join:2001-10-28 Lincoln, NE | reply to oliphant Re: It's certainly no wonder...
Damn. Now we can't call you and scream what's up. Thanks killjoy.  |
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  SRFireside
join:2001-01-19 Houston, TX | reply to oliphant Make sure all of those fees are actual Government charges and not just fees for "special funds" like the USF and stuff. There still isn't any accountability on what happens to any of those charges. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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said by jstack :SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it. They're all talk. Most of the telcos, apparently except Verizon and Fios, are all talk when delivering these new projects. It would be nice to see one of them actually deliver something for a change. -- My Web Page Join Red Room Forum |
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  oliphant I Have 8 Boobies Premium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA
1 edit | reply to SRFireside Re: It's certainly no wonder...
It's both. Some fees are expected like 9-1-1 but "Funding to support the Public Utilities Commission"...where did the other $100 billion the state collected in taxes go?
Here in California, many things they have to call funds and fees when they're actually taxes because of certain approval requirements that are required to pass an actual tax. By calling it a fee the legislature doesn't need 2/3 majority to pass it. |
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  djrobx
join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA
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quote: SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it.
My 6mbps DSL circuit that's working 29,000 feet from the CO thanks to Pronto, disagrees with you. -- \\ROB - a part of the SCB local network |
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  calvoiper
join:2003-03-31 Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| At last--an admission that SBC resents competition
said by DoofusBellHead:
"We're not a telephone company anymore; I sort of resent that, says Lea Ann Champion, an executive at SBC in charge of Project Lightspeed. TRANSLATION: "We got fat, dumb, and happy providing a necessity under a paid-off governmental monopoly. I really resent having to compete and actually work for my paycheck."
This quote is a perfect example of why the incumbents, whose only real skill is to buy off legislators and regulators, will continually fail to meet the needs of the marketplace.
The fact that Big Ed Whitacre would even tolerate such an idiotic attitude within his company is bizarre. The fact that he places such a dinosaur in charge of Project Lightspeed says far more about his true intentions (and business acumen) than any press release.
calvoiper -- VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies! |
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  Duo Maxwell What? Stop Looking At Me Like That
join:2003-03-31 Racine, WI | reply to Nate425 Re: It's certainly no wonder...
What was that number lol. I get 2 hours of long distance free that I never use, may as well harass someone lol. |
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  hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: | i have seen it all.
Only telco deploying anything like this is verzion. Im in bellsouth land. I will see this in what 20 years from now? i cant even get dsl.
I think SBC wants to lobby for some money so we flip the bill( us taxpayers). |
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 Mr Dip
join:2005-02-28 Lisle, IL
| reply to djrobx Re: Yeah ok
said by djrobx : quote: SBC has been talking about Project Pronto, Project Lightspeed, whatever they call it now for years. Nothing has ever come of it.
My 6mbps DSL circuit that's working 29,000 feet from the CO thanks to Pronto, disagrees with you. My 144k IDSL across the street from the Pronto RT disagrees with YOU! In the meantime, my VOD and HD cable agrees with jstack. |
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 b10010011 Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07 Bellingham, WA
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| death of the landline?
Not me, I will give up my land line when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers!
Maybe in another decade or so I will trust VOIP and Cellular to work in an emergency situation. As it is right now neither one is reliable enough to risk my family just to save $20 a month. |
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 jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10 Youngstown, OH
| reply to djrobx Re: Yeah ok
I doubt you are running off the CO from that distance. Probably an RT closer to you.
One person happy with the 'next gen' service... out of millions of customers. Anyone else?
To tell you the truth letting a 'few' get the faster 6mb/s connection for the same price as the 3mb/s while others are left in the dark is just unfair. If I had known about it less then a month before I signed up for DSL, I MAY have been able to get it.
Untill at least 10mb/1mb is released, I wont be entirely satisfied. I would like to do some fast transfers between work/home/friends. So far that doesn't happen. -- - "Techie" Jim |
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