Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs: | And here it comes....
The open door for the next company to completely crush TIVO. If I wanted ads, I wouldn't have bought a TIVO box. Period. |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL | Don't sweat it. Give it a week and people will figure out how to disable it. Just like everything else they've thrown down the pike.
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
 ·epix
| Tivo ads
If you're interested in what the banner has to say, you simply click your thumbs-up button for additional information (which also shares your information with the company in question).
I don't have a Tivo,for those who do.What information is shared.?
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | reply to Camelot One
Re: And here it comes....
Sadly my first Tivo will be my last. |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
1 edit | reply to guitarzan
Re: Tivo ads
Oh please, some of you guys act like TiVo just stole your candy from you. To be honest it won't change much of your viewing habits. You'll still be able to fast forward through commericals, only difference is when you do a little box will pop up asking if you'd like to see a particular commercial.
And when it comes to GM commercials I'd surely hit the thumbs up. I just love that GM commercial featuring the G6 and Solstice. Very hot.
But personally, I don't belive its gonna hurt TiVo at all. If this extra revenue helps TiVo Stay afloat them im all for it as long as im not forced to sit through commericals. |
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ottawa_guy
join:2005-06-03
Ottawa, ON
 ·Storm Internet
| Thank god I don't have TIVO. I will have Rogers Video On Demand PVR service.
I would demand a full refund if that service were to be implemented because thats not what I agreed to when I bought the PVR in the first place.
Tivo should have a customer service number where you can call to get a full refund of your service. Thats not what you agreed to, so thats not what you have to put up with. |
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NoBama
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-07
Sacramento, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Camelot One
Re: And here it comes....
I don't think a small banner is that bad either. If this quote is right I can easily ignore it or add the 30 second skip if that helps to bypass it.
said by from PVRBlog:
Posted by: Brian at August 3, 2005 03:51 PM
For those of you who don't have TiVo, "normal sized thumbs up" means it's quite small and in the upper right hand corner of the screen. It covers maybe 1/16th of the screen, sort of like a moderately more obtrusive version of those now-very-common network watermarks. The screenshot makes it look almost like it's covering the whole screen.
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black_ops
join:2001-12-24
Baltimore, MD
| reply to NPGMBR
Re: Tivo ads
Problem is that it just opens the door to other forms of advertising. One of original concepts of the TiVo in the first place was to be able to skip advertising. Now by compromising you will start to see other forms take shape.
I imagine this new form of advertising will only affect TiVo's that allow system updates as I seriously doubt it will affect anyone who has a hacked TiVo. |
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Unregistered user
| i wanted a Tivo
I had considered getting a Tivo, but I think I'll pass now. The only way they'll get me is to give me a break off the monthly fee, which is already too high. Look, if I have to sit through ads, then I should be rewarded for that. Cut the fee, and maybe I'll bite.
Is anyone else out there getting fee-fatigue? It seems that we end up paying more and more monthly fees, especially for telecom and entertainment services. A few months ago, I was paying for:
Digital cable: $60
Landline: $26
DSL: $60
Cell phone: $56
That really adds up every month. I decided to downgrade to basic cable, replace the DSL with cable Internet, and ditch the landline. Getting Tivo was appealing to me, but I just can't stomach yet another monthly fee, at least not $13. Make it $5, and I might go for that. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| reply to NPGMBR
Re: Tivo ads
Yeah, this really isn't a big deal. Get over it. A little box pops up in the corner of your screen - if you have a problem with that then you'll have a problem with everything (like 90% of the people on this site.)
If you want to keep TV prices to a (relative) minimum, ads have to be shown. We whine about the prices we pay for cable and satellite now, but imagine if most channels weren't ad-subsidized. Here comes a $250 a month cable bill...
So pipe down...  |
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Chaoswar
Premium
join:2002-09-23
Northlake IL
| Eh... Much to do about nothing.
The ad is non-invasive and doesn't impede the function of fast forward. Anyone arguing that this is a great inconvenience to them is ridiculous. If you're arguing simply on principle that's a different story.
I've owned a Tivo since they first came out. I've loved the product from the beginning, I still do! The ad system is an additional means to make money. Revenue is very important to a company and as this is a capitalistic country I applaud Tivo for trying to maximize their return.
Personally, I realize that I pay for the outlet and not the content of my television programming. The group that pays for that content is advertisers. Realizing this, I do not begrudge a small ad displayed while fast forwarding which simply disappears after pressing play.
I want to keep my tivo and it's service and this is a SMALL price to pay. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| reply to Unregistered user
Re: i wanted a Tivo
You don't have to sit through anything. It's just a little icon at the top corner of your screen while you're fast forwarding. It doesn't delay you at all. You probably won't even notice it after a few hours. Some of you babies whine like they're beating you with a stick...
Pitiful... |
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Annon Tivo
@pegs.com
| reply to Camelot One
Re: And here it comes....
Why everyone complains about ads i will never know. You can not tell me with a straight face the whole reason you bought a tivo was to skip ads. Thats complete bs and you and i know it, just like everyone else in the forum.
You bought tivo for the whole purpose of time shifting your material so you can watch it at a later date.
If you bought it to just skip ads you a fool and wasted your money. TIVO can and will do so much more. |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to Unregistered user
Re: i wanted a Tivo
I just depends on the individual. I haven't have a land line for more than a year now, have basic cable, and my $12 TiVo subscription. I see most of my movies via Netflix although I see many in theaters as well.
I know some people that still have landlines, pay for Digital cable, and internet, cell phone ........ an amazing value to you at only $199.99 per month.
Additionally, I know some folks that also pay for AOL, REAL One and other crap that they hate paying for but still do because they don't want to loose the service. So its all up to the individual to decide how they wish to spend their cash. |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | reply to Chaoswar
Re: Eh... Much to do about nothing.
Additionaly, TiVo is also doing this to keep from increasing the subscription Fee. Now is that a good thing or what? |
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Unregistered user
| reply to Alpine
Re: i wanted a Tivo
Alpine, you missed my point. I don't care how intrusive the ad is. What I said is that, if they're going to throw ads at me, then they need to look into cutting the monthly fee, which, IMHO is too high.
And yes, I know, Tivo is in the red. However, how many people choose not to buy because of the fee being as high as it is? If they lower it, they will get more subs, which will bring in more revenue. |
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Unregistered user
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Agreed. It all depends on each person's tolerance. Frankly, I can't see how some people do it. I mean, in addition to the services you and I have already mentioned, there's stuff like satellite radio, mobile e-mail (Blackberry/Palm), and XBOX Live, just to name a few. Not that any of these aren't useful to those who sub to them, but the cost really does add up quickly. I'd love to have Netflix, but that's yet another monthly fee. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | reply to Annon Tivo
Re: And here it comes....
Well, TiVo's advertising campaign was "Skip the stuff you don't want to see". Yes, people DO, in fact, use TiVo to skip ads. I always do something else, waiting 15 minutes into a show before watching just so I can skip the ads.
Part of it is that TiVo is falling down a slippery slope.
First it was the star ads. TiVo swore up and down that it would not get worse. Now they've turned to banner ads (and they've tested some that consumed a good portion of the screen, not like that teeny little ad in the screenshot).
How long will it be until they insert ads in the guide? The Pick Programs to Record area? Ads that you can't fast forward through? Are they going to start charging even more money if you want to opt out of them? I understand TiVo needs to make money to survive, but slapping ads all over it rightfully turns the stomachs of many.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to Annon Tivo
said by Annon Tivo:
Why everyone complains about ads i will never know. You can not tell me with a straight face the whole reason you bought a tivo was to skip ads. Thats complete bs and you and i know it, just like everyone else in the forum. Skipping ads was probably reason #2, after timeshifting, why I bought my first VCR back in the early 1980's. For me, the problem with ads now is there are to damn many of them. Back in the 60's and early 70's, you had perhaps one minute of commercials at a break. No big deal. Now they waste anywhere from three to seven minutes of your life at a break and skipping has become a necessity. I remember about four or five years ago, the Sci-Fi channel was going to air all of the original Star Trek episodes unedited in their original broadcast length. Only problem was that with todays normal commercial breaks inserted, the 1960's programs would run about one hour and fifteen minutes. Go back to the old break lengths, quintuple the fees the advertisers pay to make up for it, and maybe skipping will be more hassle than it's worth.
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chesney09
Premium
join:2004-07-26
Redford, MI
clubs:
| People just like to argue and whine...
If you look at damn near anything that is posted in NEWS, etc..
There are ALWAYS the bashers, Trollers, and people who just genuinely like to argue.
If you don't like the lil Thimps up if you want more info Banner Ad.. Drop your service.
This isn't going to affect fast forwarding, viewing, etc. It's a corporate sponsored world.. This is really nothing new and shouldn't be surprising.
Any of you read the Vonage outage thread? It is full of Bashers and threats of this is SH!T and I am going to cancel too.. Blah blah blah.. Everything changes, SH!T happens, and it isn't really worth stressing out unless it is really a problem. If Tivo was ramming a full screen ad up your nose when FFin.. I could see some valid gripe material. It's a stupid corner icon.
I am glad to hear it isn't as big of a deal as it was thought to be... Tivo is and has changed how everyone watches TV.. Seems to have been worth it to me! |
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