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1 edit |  Possible for temp situations; but permanent??
This sounds like it has some possibilities for those temporary situations mentioned in the linked news release. But I don't see how a balloon can maintain a permanent presence that could replace towers or satellite communications. Unlike the Stratellite(which has a location maintaining propeller system), a balloon is subject to the vagaries of the winds.
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Think about it, .....a hot air baloon, which wherever it travels, wherever the wind takes it,keeps showering broadband connectivity to all in reach, for free!!
"its a bird,... ita a plane,..... no, its Broadband Santa!!
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I have had some experience communication through high altitude balloons. There is, or was, an Amateur Radio group in Boulder, Colorado that launched such balloons it is interesting being able to go through a balloon floating at 100,000 feet and talking with people from Wyoming well down into New Mexico. This on a frequency that in a simplex mode I would expect just a few ten's of miles depending on the terrain. There great potential in this if a number of issues can be addressed, station keeping, maintenance, the big one I see is high altitude lightning. Blue sprites and red jets, etc.
( »elf.gi.alaska.edu/sprites.html ) This type of electrical discharge if far more powerful then the cloud/ground lighting we deal with on earth, and flashes from the cloud tops into the ionosphere.
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Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent??
I was thinking a tether, but at 12-15 miles in the air I do not think it would be practicle..
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This is crap is so full of hot air it isnt funny anymore. Sure it looks good on paper , but in the real world it stinks. Why dont the bells finish deploying dsl and there will be no problems then.
This is just like the blimp useless. Call up your ISP and tell them that there ballon or blimp is in your back yard and how long will it take before you get internet back? |
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1 edit | reply to nicespeeds
Re: Latecy?
said by nicespeeds:
And what will the pings be?
Pings would be negligible. 20-50ms in latency.
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Re: one more
said by hayabusa3303  :This is crap is so full of hot air it isnt funny anymore. Sure it looks good on paper , but in the real world it stinks. And why is that? Oh, I forgot, a telephone pole every 75ft is more practicle.
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Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent??
Huge Helium Balloon Sets High-Flying Record
A robotic balloon with a science mission recently set records for distance and duration in a 41-day flight above the Antarctic.
The NASA-operated balloon flew circles around the South Pole while gathering data on cosmic rays, high-energy particles that travel at nearly light-speed and slam into Earth's upper atmospher
Artist rendering of the Ultra-Long Duration Balloon, expected to fly for 100 days. Credit: NASA
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nicespeeds
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Re: Latecy?
that's sweet, but when the flocks of birds start migrating... |
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Personally, its a great disaster relief concept, vs the use of expensive satellites, these could be deployed over disaster areas where the infastructure was 'removed' (earthquake,tsunami,nuclear,emp etc..) where disaster teams can quicky contact one another, for minimal effort, just throw up a baloon w/ a few solar panels and some wifi repeaters, one can have voip etc for comm, email/im for messages etc....
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Re: one more
said by r81984 :Cables are burried now. Where you live maybe, but not where I live.
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The one that looked like a whale? Karl must've gotten rid of the pic damn him! Its a great idea blimpband. Now all ther need to do it launch the first test blimp above New England. |
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Re: one more
said by hayabusa3303 :This is crap is so full of hot air it isnt funny anymore. Sure it looks good on paper , but in the real world it stinks. Why dont the bells finish deploying dsl and there will be no problems then. This is just like the blimp useless. Call up your ISP and tell them that there ballon or blimp is in your back yard and how long will it take before you get internet back? I disagree in part. This is awesome for those needing temporary high-speed hookups, such as week-long or day-long conferences, political events, etc. It saves infrastructure and equipment costs for events such as these. |
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Why don't we just put fricken lasers everywhere and use them for broadband. Sure, rain, snow and birds, especially pigeons (rats with wings), will be a problem but who cares. It will be fricken fast and go out sometimes.
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Re: Latecy?
said by nicespeeds :
that's sweet, but when the flocks of birds start migrating...
Do migrating birds affect your TV signal?
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Re: one more
Yeah,
100's of miles of buried fiber is far more practical as well! LOL! |
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calvoiper
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Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent??
...to say nothing of the hazard the tether would create for lower flying airplanes.
Remember, England used balloons on tethers (called "barrage balloons") during WW II to deter German bombers.
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Re: one more
What "week-long or day-long" conferences or events need a 60 kilometer diameter of coverage? Even Burning Man is small enough to cover with a hot spot or two--if you have the fat pipe to the web.
Even a large convention with attendees spread throughout hotels all over a metro area would have problems--like satellite, this isn't going to work very well indoors.
MAYBE this could provide a temporary "bridge" to a event in the boonies like Burning Man, but realistically, it'd be much simpler to just have it serve as a single fat pipe in and out, and still use Wi-Fi for the connections to the end users--that way you don't have to set up each attendee with special hardware.
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