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When I was growing up, there were never parental advisory stickers on music... there was no need for them!
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said by herby2day1:If you weren't a 40 white man from east bumf*ck
My musical taste and distastes are my opinion based upon years of enjoying music.If you weren't a 15- 20 year old colored person from west or middle bumf*ckMy opinion has what to do with your liking rap.? You don't know me, my age or the color of my skin.
said by herby2day1:you would understand that alot of that so called rap music is not just sang by "gangstas" but by alot of people and if you tried to even put something together to sound like a rap you would realize that its just as hard to put a rap together You misunderstood what i posted.While there are rappers calling themselves Gangsta rappers I have even seen "the best of gangsta rap" cd compilations for sale.The only gangstas I referred to in my post is the "gangstas" in charge of the RIAA.Name me one rap song in which there is actually singing.All it is just talking and rhyhming, hence the label "rap" Lyrics such as, say yeah, get yer hands in the air, yo yo yo who's in the house, are not hard to pen. said by herby2day1:And the so called Gangstas as you put it listen to alot of other music, Re read to see who i actually called gangstas. said by herby2day1:What was it the 50's that Elvis was really popular and everyone wanted him banned because he was Inappropriate. I guess it was the way Elvis the pelvis moved his hips while singing and from what i understand tv cameras would not show his waistline while performing.Check out the rap of DMX »www.getlyrics.com/artists.php/D
His(DMX) rap is of a wanna be gangsta with very foul language.
Elvis Presley sang a lot of music including Gospel music.Elvis was a class act compared to the offensive language of rappers.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Go MOM! said by Desdinova:I personally don't care for rap at all, but I definitely feel it's a form of singing. The chromatic range is much narrower (usually no broader than three or four semitones) than "normal" singing and it takes its tonal structure from the timing and rhythm as opposed to the melody or counter melody. If you remove the words from a rap and reduce the vocal track to a series of musical tones, it definitely follows a tonal pattern (albeit a very limited one). To my ears, none of this makes it any easier to listen to, though...*grin* The best of the underground avant-garde today is embedded in hip-hop. Sample-based music (as practiced by Vampire Rodents, Matmos and MC Tracheotomy), new sound-scape (as best exemplified by Dalek's post-industrial rap symphonies) and other forms of even bolder vocal experimentation (Cannibal Ox, some of Blackilicious' work, Rahzel's beat boxing). The turntablist has developed into a virtuosic position (DJ Faust and Kid606 come to mind). Whether a piece of art is pleasing to the ear, eye, or whatever is often irrelevant to the aim of the work. Rap is certainly music and some of the most alien and odd postmodern music yet.
Of course, the massive of mainstream rap is incredibly limited to predictable and tiny repetitive vocal patterns by artists unaware of what they are presenting. Mainstream rap culture's negative reinforcement of a stereotypically misogynistic and sadistic way of life far outweights its artistic value.
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DAMN! That's one of the most intelligent comments I've heard on any subject in a long time. Although I do find some of the rythmic patterns in rap very interesting. There is someone somewhere behind the scenes on some of these pieces that obviously knows how to switch from 6/8 to 6/12 and back to 4/4 but I sincerely doubt many of the artists would recognize it on paper.
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Fear not everybody. Just look beyond the mainstream and you will find music is still going strong and beautiful. That's what makes P2P so wonderful. You can find so much good stuff out there if you're willing to look. | |
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Some labels that I have found release consistently good and fun to listen to music ...
Arts & Crafts (indie)
Dischord (punk and post-punk)
Barsuk (indie pop)
Kill Rock Stars (indie rock)
Matador (everything)
DFA (for dancier stuff-except Black Dice, no no, stay away from Black Dice)
K records (indie, folk)
Def Jux (for hip hop)
Sub Pop (everything)
There's so many more, but these are just my personal faves. If any one else has suggestions, feel free to share! | |
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But don't forget Lookout! and Epitaph. | |
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I'm so sick of people trying to stick parental responsibilities on someone else. It's up to the parents to decide if a product is right for their kid and to enforce what their kid is exposed to, not some company.
I for one would rather have the freedom to choose to listen to something or not. Maybe I'm crazy but I just feel like I'm old enough to make my own decisions..... | |
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If her account was used in uploading music and sharing it on the internet and it's proved, then she deserves her verdict. If it is proven that her account and equipment was used in uploading and sharing content, then she deserves the verdict and maybe she will become a more involved parenet and supervise her kids online activities or those that visit her house and use her equipment. If she did nothing, then there is no vicotry, only a loss for the RIAA. And for the record, I can file share with a $200.00 computer so her argument there held no water in my bucket.
I may not like what the RIAA does in all cases, but the law is still the law and THAT is what I respect. If you have no respect for the law, then you can't call yourself a patriot of this country.
There is nothing to be so happy about here. It's just a civil case between two parties. If you are thinking her win will change anything, you are wrong because it won't. | |
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"I have the least expensive computer system you can buy from Dell. The type you order off television for $499.00. It was purchased in the summer of 2002 and has the smallest hard drive they make. I have no cd writer on it and the cd-rom that I do have, does not even work correctly
Given that the US legal system is all about who has the most $$$ to throw in it, do you guys honestly think she can afford a lawyer who could even tickle the RIAA??
At worst, there will be a class action suit against the RIAA in the future, and they'll pay off like 0,001% of the annual revenue to settle. Big deal... | |
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When I first got my computer set up almost three years ago, I had a friend set it up for me since I did not know how to do it. She had put Kaaza Lite on there and told me what it was. She claims she never used it. Who knows?
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I doubt the mom has the money. She could easily get enough to have even a chance by for example, setting up a web page for donations.
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If they wanted to drag it out or bury them in legal proceedings, nobody would have enough money.
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They will care, IMO all they will only care about is getting that shutoff valve working again.The power of the government is pwned by its RIAA masters That's why government must do the bidding for the RIAA and look the other way regarding consumers not customers.Customer protection vanished a long time ago during the construction era of the corporate empire.
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Good to see the RIAA enforcing copyright law uniformly on ALL Pirates. Don't make no diff if you're a Mon, a hooker, a pimple faced kid, or a CEO - PIRACY is still a crime that you should be punished for.
Does this dumb B*TCH think that a small HD and questionable CD drive means no crime was committed??? What an A*S WIPE she must be ! | |
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Then upload the song!
Coercion. Strong arming. All because the music industry would rather fill lawyers coffers then their own (by lowering CD prices...the models are there...it would be like GM sales...screw the mom & pop stores, give the music consumer what they want- Cheaper music!) | |
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| Ya know For many, many and probably longer before p2p programs files were still being transmitted on the computer and recieved by other computers, servers and such..
They called it the internet.
However, if you have the knowledge to do so you could just do a Secured FTP server, and set MP3's there as well.
WOuld it be distributing? well depends on how you look at it? FTP stands for "File Transfer Protocol"
They would have to argue that MP3's are files, which then they would lose because you transmit files over the internet when you view a webpage, get e-mail, and all sorts of stuff. You could then argue that the RIAA did not have or had unauthorized access to the FTP server and consider it trespassing and harassment. I think the would back down rather quick after that because there would be just too much to argue or attempt to quash.
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the act of sending a file from one computer to another over a network, in this case the internet, is stealing, then let me ask, just what is being stolen? If someone came in my house and took my computer, then clearly my computer was stolen as it would no longer be in my posession.
However if I allow someone to upload a song via p2p or any other method for that matter such as IRC or the dreaded FTP, just what exactly is being stolen there?
Let's see, a file was uploaded from me, and amazingly I still have the original file that was uploaded? If someone uploads the same exact file from the person that got the file from me, is that stealing? Let's see both them and I still have the same file, my god that's a strange deffinition of stealing if I've ever heard one! The act of sending data from one computer or device to another where both the recipiant and the original file uploader have the file exactly, constitutes stealing! OK yeah right! Isn't file transfer one of the more basic tasks done on a computer network? So does this mean that all methods of file transfer should be outlawed, and authors of everything from FTP servers to web servers to p2p apps to even instant messengers should be sued just because the ability exists to send a file to another computer from your own? This in my view is rediculous! All that's being done on a p2p network is the sending of a file from one computer to another. I find it interesting that many major ISP's particularly Cox residential will block common p2p uploads, yet I was fully able to run my FTP server with no problems? what makes p2p any different from FTP, since they're both methods of stealing apparently? And what do you get with the "legal alternatives?" Let's see you get a file download that can magically only be played on the computer that downloaded the file, and you can't simply copy it across the network to your other computer. should you have a system crash and have to redo the system, even if you have the file backed up, guess what, it won't play now will it! So as it stands now you can get for free a version of your favorite song that can be played on any device or computer of your choosing, and the file can be backed up,or you can pay to get a more crippled file that cannot be backed up or transfered to any device of your choosing. I know which option I prefer. My point here is simply that the solution to all this is simple, yet the RIAA and related organizations, aren't even willing to attempt to resolve the issue, and my question is why? Of course there will always be those that won't care and download just because they can, but for those that truly want content, what would you rather do, download from a p2p network and wait in queues and have slow downloads, or have a lightning fast download direct from industry servers that would max out your 15mbit fiber connection? Yeah I know I'm dreaming, but I for one would not mind paying for services not unlike Napster or Itunes but without this DRM crap that no consumer wants to put up with! Why is the industry so unwilling to even realize this and actually try giving the consumer what they want, fast downloads of NonDRM'd content that can be put on any device the consumer chooses! That's all the industry needs to do to help resolve all this. Now how do we get them to listen to our wishes, or can we? I'm doubting it. | |
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Seattle, WA | What to say..... Well, I believe the RIAA has to get their act together and needs to quit using such lame arguements from well known artists such as Missy Elliott, etc saying that file sharing hurts their livelyhood, hurts them financially...which anyone with half a brain knows to be a lie. I do believe that P2P helps out many artists that don't get the exposure they need. The only reason I believe the RIAA is against it is because like an earlier post stated, is because they loose control....loose money for themselves. CD prices are outrageous. I don't even buy into the whole new online music sites such as Napster or Rhapsody because if I decide to buy a track or an album from them, I sure as hell don't want any restrictions on what I choose to do with what I BOUGHT. There are many things to consider in this situation. However, what I stated above is what I believe. The RIAA can go to hell. Their like a big train that has gotten too much speed and needs to slow their roll. | |
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| | So whats the name of this trio? MWDWTTRFTAOTK (mothers who don't want to take responsibility for the actions of their kids)
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Email/MSN: Michael at hardwaregeeks.comAIM: MikeR35292 | |
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| | Underlying aspects No matter how many posts on a subject like this it keeps coming down to a few key points.
1.Control your kids.
I am a parent of 2 girls. I can control them...to a point. I have things to do, my wife has things to do. I can teach them right and wrong. I can guide them to do the right thing. Can I CONTROL what they do 100% of the time? Absolutely not. So this argument about controlling your kids is moot. Yes, there can be things put in place to control what they ACCESS on the computer which I totally agree that parents do, but you cannot CONTROL what they do 100% of the time.
2. Take responsibility for your kids actions.
Absolutely, no argument, if you try to not take responsibility for your kids actions you dont need to be a parent. Suck it up and be an adult.
3. Legal definitions and moral definitions of "steal", "sharing", etc, etc.
We could be here until the end of time defining terms and pulling precedents. The fact of the matter is the moral, yes moral state of this country right now is in a downward spiral. Definitions are getting twisted by interpretation and people are writing their own when they dont like what Webster has to say about it. Morals are in a constant state of change. Always have been, always will be. Until EVERYONE comes to an agreement on such terms and morals, there will never be a status quo that will please everyone. There is no "right" or "wrong" definition or answer for the masses that will solve this argument.
4. The role of money.
Everyone knows this part whether they want to believe it or not. Money is the great motivator in this whole predicatment. Say what you will, there are some artists (within the bounds of the RIAA)that want more money in their pockets, there are some that want more exposure,there are some that just dont care. The underlying reasoning with the RIAA is not the unjust treatment of its artists, but the supposed loss of money.
5. The role of government.
Government is evil, government is out to get us all, government just cares about money. Could be. Everyone knows there is some corruption in our government as well as a good number of major corporations. Dont deny it, or argue it, its there, just look hard enough. Is this the big evil here? No, but it does have a hand in it. Probably not as big as everyone thinks, but its there. Our judicial system needs a much overdo overhaul which was built upon much different morals and values than most people today have. Consequently when someone with the power to "interpret" the law does so, it is usually "interpreted" to that persons morals and values, not the collective people to which the law is supposed to uphold. And dont get me started on elections and we chose them. I am not anti-government, but that is a discussion for another thread.
This subject will continue to be debated until the end of time or until we all get our heads thinking in one accord which of course will never happen because we are all individuals and we all have our own "morals" and "values" that we hold ever so dear. | |
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