N3OGH
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Philly burbs | Greedy music industry
Steve Jobs has given his answer to what he's called the "greedy" music industry"
The music industry greedy?
Naaaa..... |
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pike
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clubs: | Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black?
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Jason Levine
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1 edit | The goose that laid the golden egg
For the RIAA, iTunes is pretty much the goose that laid the golden egg. They don't need to invest anything into it. (Apple does that.) All they do is sit back and collect the profits. But, once they spy a golden egg-laying goose, the RIAA apparently has decided to strangle the it in an attempt to squeeze out more golden eggs. 
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Viggen93
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Re: Greedy music industry
Problem is, when you factor in all the restriction of DRM'ed downloads, the consumer loses. Not that ITMS or the RIAA see any problem in that.
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Cod
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said by pike  :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike What are you insinuating? |
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TKJunkMail
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said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business.
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mythology
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Seneca, SC | ha..
Atleast jobs has a little common sense. I guess if he was going to get a larger profit he might be all for it. |
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packetscan
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Re: Greedy music industry
I buy my music on iTunes and then use p2p applications to acquire NON DRM'd files.
I have 3 different mp3 players.
I wish they didn't have DRM in the first place. |
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loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
| Jobs is right!
Common, when people see 99 cents they think cheap its less then a dollar. When they see $1.50 they think expensive and will not buy it, they will use p2p and get it for free. Haven't any of the RIAA executives taken psychology or they have no common sense and only GREED. |
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F walker
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Jobs, along with others, think that iTunes is a huge part of what is fueling the iPod craze... You up prices on iTunes titles, fewer folks are likely to buy a new iPod (which is, imho, a falsehood) Jobs does not want to do ANYTHING to risk iPod popularity. There is basically NO money made by Apple or the artists from the iTunes fees, the vast majority goes to the record company. It is in no ones best interest (except for the record companies) to up the fees.
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Combat Chuck
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Re: Greedy music industry
said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | reply to TKJunkMail
You always ask the good questions |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
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quote:
**cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
Hardly. I think you need to get a clue:
»www.ipodbatterydepot.com/index.a···s-ad-3.5
»www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlo···googmp79
»www.ipodbattery.com/
»www.ipodbatteryfaq.com
Yeah, nonreplaceable.
Nice try, though. |
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Doctor Four
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Dallas, TX | reply to Viggen93
There's a simple answer for iTunes DRM: jHymn. I've
used it to rip the protected files to wave and then
convert them to mp3. |
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amungus
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| good 4 him
smart guy. back when napster died out, everybody clammored for exactly what he accomplished. simple, $1 a song downloads for everybody. while it did take a bit of time for the pc version to emerge, it worked fine when it came out, and was just as simple as napster (minus the drm of course).
glad somebody did it. if he didn't, maybe it never would've happened. thing I don't get is, how can RealRhapsody/Yahoo music do their subscriptions so cheap compared to this, and STILL the industry wants more money???
Get some real a&r people to really find some worthwhile music and charge FAIR prices for it! Sell the album/artwork/maybe a bonus exclusive track on whatever service cheaper than the store cd, and you have more money right there than wasting everyone's time wanting to charge a buck fitty a song!
FOUL move on their part. as if people aren't already mad about the misplaced suits, the wasted profits, the cd prices (weren't those things supposed to be CHEAPER eventually??????), the JUNK "music" that's so over-rated (forced upon us) it makes me wish I could vomit at will.
I hope he sticks to his plan. Glad itunes exists even though I've only ever bought 1 song from them.
What really gets me, is that people are willing to spend $3+ on "ringtones" when most phones could record off the music into its voice recorder... priceless. |
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AthlGrond
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Re: Greedy music industry
Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
»www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
Yeah, I thought so.
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SRFireside
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But now that Jobs has gotten the word out regarding the price hikes being non-essential the labels that pull that kind of crap will get a pretty nasty blackened public eye. So now it depends on whether or not the labels feel lucky. Well... do they, punk? |
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nixen
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said by TKJunkMail :said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business. And, if he agrees to the price hikes and people revert to piracy, iTunes stays in business, how?
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joako
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said by Combat Chuck :said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough** Except that after consumer demand, Apple started to offer a low cost battery replacement program. After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less.
If I had to pick one, I'd pick Apple.
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one_bored_si
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Jobs will cave in as soon as contracts are not renewed, what other choice will he have. He's just posturing for the time being so as to avoid looking like the bad guy when pricing does increase and it will. In the end he isn't the bad guy, lower prices mean better sales for iTomb.;) |
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