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Comments on news posted 2005-09-26 09:06:44: One of the reasons (other than spyware) Kazaa saw a plunge in popularity was the RIAA's effort to fill the sharing network with corrupt or bogus files, making the search and retrieval process more difficult. ..

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Augustus III
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but

Doesn't that ultimately cost them a lot of money? If people were doing their part, they should have been running a deficit by now instead of 400% profits vs in the year 2000 when they were making less..

this simply proves that force does work into scaring the sheeple. go riaa.


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It's okay

Alot of people seem to download two or three versions anyway just to get it faster. 1 our 3 will surely be a good copy.
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strict_machine

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yes, of course it is poisoning them, it will try anything, so we must not be surprised.

bring it on. they will never win this battle, nor the war.
ever.


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 Mutually Assured Destruction

The RIAA and the MPAA have the money to hire as many tech firms as they need to continue the assault on myBitTorrent and other listing sites. And these sites will eventually detect and stop the poisoning. But in the end, as more and more users get frustrated, the use of these sites for copyrighted materials goes down - a win for the **AA's.
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AdmittedSpellingNazi

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Re: It's okay

A...........................................Lot

two words.


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Re: Mutually Assured Destruction

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

But in the end, as more and more users get frustrated, the use of these sites for copyrighted materials goes down - a win for the **AA's.
Piracy will always exist no matter what **AAs do. As they kill some means of getting free stuff, newer and better ones come along to take their place. **AAs should concentrate on producing quality content at reasonable prices instead of playing this neverending cat-and-mouse game.
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JazzJRabbit

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How effective is it going to be in the long run?

Meh... More than likely this will just push people to trusted websites and forums where all torrent links are guaranteed not to be fake.


mr3000

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3000 Out of Millions

Well, if 3000 people acutally download the crap and get frustrated, too bad on them.. pay apple $1.00 per song, then. Other than that, its a music paradise.. you can even find obscure titles out there these days... and anything that gets popular to the tune of 3,000 people downloading it, is probably a mild hit

Also, this is a spoiler tactic, because alot of law-suits in mid-western cities and towns are bouncing bigger than those peasly little royalty checks that go out to the artists, and the ones that are good, take an extra-LOOONG time to cash, heh, heh, heh...
Also it seems alot harder to sue Mom and /or the children, hmm.. wonder why? Besides, a Walmart salary isn't gonna help the RIAA one little bit.
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Wouldn't put it past them

I Think they are doing just this.. Why not? they need to protect them selves from the internet theives..*Apparently*.
On the Other Hand. This is where I'm torn. Because if I'm already getting the same content on cable or satellite (non pay per view ) Then why shouldn't i be able to download it. Why should i be tied to my TV.. When i can Take 4-5 episodes of a Tv show pop it on the hard drive for my flight and be content.

My Fair-Use Rights say i can video tape the content. So I'm adapting the new technology to that right. Why don't they understand this.. I know why.. Because they FEAR that they are going to loose money on advertising.. There entire business model is Horridly flawed.. They apparently make no monies other than advertising ( or so I'm reading) I'll admit i haven't research that in depth. But that Alone is a joke..
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the_buz

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Futile efforts.

Is this really the first time the RIAA has resorted to something such as this? You know, the sharing of bogus files to catch copyright infringers in the act? Like the previous poster before me mentioned, there are usually multiple versions of the copy of music/software on any given web site. The best advice I can offer is wait until there are many seeders and read the comments to make sure the file is indeed legitimate. How that torrent had 400 seeders is beyond me.

So what if the torrent is corrupted? It only takes a few hours to redownload it (usually). How much longer do you think it will be before they began attaching malicious code to these corrupted files? Maybe cut a deal with some big name anti-virus creators so they skip over that bit of code in the file? I think it's only a matter of time before they resort to that.

I say they just stick to threatening. It's worked fairly well (with the exception of one person) up until this point.


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Re: It's okay

*shrug* --> admitted non-caring person.


brooklynman4

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Re: Futile efforts.

Let the games begin welcome to the 2005 winter games lol .


buddahbless

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reply to the_buz
HAY HAY HAY DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!!! you know they monitor this site too. By tonight they will probably be on the phone with Norton & McAfee


Spore Cloud
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So I've noticed...

I first started noticing this a few weeks ago when I started downloading the HBO show Rome. Not only are there fake torrents the real ones become burdened by fake seeds and garbage data. So much so that I've started using PeerGuardian to block the offenders, mostly by a company called Media Sentry. But it doesn't really matter, in the end I still get my Rome =)

frogli

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lawsuit

could someone download that file, copyright it, then file a law suit against the record company for trading it. haha


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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Mutually Assured Destruction

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The RIAA and the MPAA have the money to hire as many tech firms as they need to continue the assault on myBitTorrent and other listing sites. And these sites will eventually detect and stop the poisoning. But in the end, as more and more users get frustrated, the use of these sites for copyrighted materials goes down - a win for the **AA's.
As more users get frustrated, they will move onto something else.

For every illegal site the **AA's stop, 2 more open.
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jwardl

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reply to Augustus III
Re: but

Who cares? Then something better will come along. If the RIAA and MPAA had a corner on the market of innovation, they'd be too busy raking in the cash to have time for such silly games.
Instead, they blame file sharers for their reduced incomes, as if cutting off all file sharing would increase their bottom line (it wouldn't).


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reply to Pirate515
Re: Mutually Assured Destruction

Piracy will always exist for the dedicated pirates. The RIAA doesn't care about them. The object is to frustrate the casual pirate which is a very reachable goal.

Piracy has always been "acceptable" as long as it remained a somewhat difficult process that a relatively small % of people will go through. It is futile to try and stop them. However it's easy and worth the time to target casual, non-technical users who, after a few bad downloads, will give up the game.
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Re: So I've noticed...

If you pay your satellite or cable company for HBO their is no reason why you shouldn't be able to get the content via bit torrent.
Again our Fair-Use rights are being impeded.
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Re: Futile efforts.

Now there is a thought, Olympic file shareing. The contest would be between teams from the various RIAA's, MPAA's types around the world, and P2P file sharers and hacker types. The rule would be something like track pursuit bicycling. The Bootleg teams would start out with the goal of downloading as many good files as possiable. While the objective of the Recording and movie industary teams would be to make things as hard a possiable for them to do this. Points would be rewarded for how artfully the Bootleg teams manuvered around the road blocks set by the recording/movie teams and the recording/movie industary types would get points for how well they slowed down the downloading, junk files installed, and how fast they where able to catch the bootleggers.

At last a Olyimpic sport for geeks, and Taylor Trolls to gain glory.
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