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| WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idiot:
It is convenient. WiFi access is nice. It may even be advantageous to improving business development. But a "fundamental right"? Let's get real - it isn't food or shelter, or the right to a fair trial. And free WiFi has even a lower claim to being a right than does internet access. Mayor Newsom has to be one of the most limelight seeking mayors in the US.
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bokamba
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Falls Church, VA | Re: WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idio
I am with you all the way. What an idiot. |
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Nashua, NH | reply to TKJunkMail
"It is to me a fundamental right to have access universally to information," stated the mayor, who added the project was "a civil rights issue as much as anything else."
What else can you expect from an extremist. |
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RayW
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| Right....
I wonder if he is going to furnish free laptops to all the street people to empower them? Note: last time I was in The City was 1986, lots of street people then.
While I like the idea of the network (I wonder when the established monopolies are going to sue for unfair competition), calling it a 'right' is nothing more than a political ploy. What do you think we pay the libraries for? That is where I go when I do not have connection, of course from a fiscally responsible standpoint, I can not afford a laptop to lug around either.
And who is going to pay for it? At least Lompoc has a fee schedule set up, which would make a lie to his 'fundamental right of all citizens' statement.
As far as a universal right to information Mr. Newsom, have you noticed that many of the really good information sites are going to a pay for information mode (at least ones I use to use)?
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qdemn7
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Don't forget this is the same Liberal Idiot who got his ass handed to him by members of his own party for his Gay Marriage fiasco.
What do you expect? Logic? Critical rational thinking? Not in the People's Republik of San Franciso in the People's Republik of Kailfornia.
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That San Francisco has taken care of all of the other big city problems and has now declared a war on lack-of-wireless. What a publicity stunt. |
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JSRoman
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| Said like a true liberal.
No wonder they love him other there. A civil right issue? I guess we better break out in song right now. "WE SHALL OVER COME"
Let me get this straight . San Fran is slowly becoming a childless city, its schools are in danger of closing up due to lack of children,city taxes are sky high,housing is incredibly overpriced and bums are all over the place but its priorities is making sure everyone has wifi. NIce. |
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Re: WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idiot:
Looks like "Retire Rich" has a new name, but the same Conservative pro-free market rhetoric.
Internet access is very quickly becoming a necessity for productivity, particularly in the San Francisco area. The dislike of the idea of broadband as a utility stems from a love of profit and a hatred of government getting in the way of that profit.
I'm sure the fact he's a Democrat doesn't hurt Rich's dislike much, either.
Is a man an "idiot" for suggesting access to the most revolutionary technology in the history of man should be a right? Is he really? I might suggest it's actually rather visionary. |
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qdemn7
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| said by Minister  :Is a man an "idiot" for suggesting access to the most revolutionary technology in the history of man should be a right? Is he really? I might suggest it's actually rather visionary. Yes he's an idiot. 
Yes he REALLY is. 
If that's visionary, then I suggest the idiot needs glasses, or maybe a seeing-eye dog.
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gpancner
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Nine Mile Falls, WA | firearms vs. wi-fi basic right
Wi-fi a "basic right"? If your not a criminal, don't bother owning a firearm in San Francisco. The second amendment doesn't apply. |
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Re: WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idio
said by Minister :Is a man an "idiot" for suggesting access to the most revolutionary technology in the history of man should be a right? Is he really? I might suggest it's actually rather visionary. Yes.
If free wireless internet is a right, then free cable TV should be a right. I should get a free cell phone and cell phone service, it's my right.
Even basic utilities are not "rights." You still have to pay for electricity, water and phone service. Why doesn't the mayor claim those should be offered for free? Since free wi-fi is a right getting free electricity to power up the free wi-fi should be a right as well.
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captokita
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Calabash, NC | So what's next?
If wireless internet is a "Basic Right", then I guess every household in San Fran should have either a laptop with wireless capability, or a desktop with wireless..... Gotta be able to RECEIVE the info right?
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pnh102
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Re: Right....
said by RayW :I wonder if he is going to furnish free laptops to all the street people to empower them? Note: last time I was in The City was 1986, lots of street people then. I was in the city last month. There are lots of street people now.
said by RayW :And who is going to pay for it? <bad joke>
The city can pay for it by selling same-sex marriage licenses!
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Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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Re: WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idio
said by Minister :The dislike of the idea of broadband as a utility stems from a love of profit and a hatred of government getting in the way of that profit. And the dislike of profit and desire for government to intervene comes from a childish over-simplistic view of economics and the role profits (and losses) play in increasing the standard of living for everyone; a roll that is totally bypassed once the government decides something that is not a right is and then uses that to play to the publics emotions instead of their brains. Ohh the poor have to get up off their arses to go to the library to get access while the rich sit in their castles hording the broadband, their being oppressed!!
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It is not a "right", providing wireless internet access is not "free", it doesn't magically appear.
The next logical step is that owning a laptop will be a "right" so they can take advantage of their "right" to wireless internet access.
Then SF will be required by the courts to distribute "free" laptops to everyone so they can enjoy their "right" to wireless internet access.
Of course to run those laptops, the "right" to 120V power will be mandated and the city will be installing 120V power outlets at every street corner and alley in the city.
If you want access to "the most revolutionary technology in the history of man" and don't want to pay to provide or use it, then go to the public library.
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Re: It's good to see
said by NJBlackBerry :That San Francisco has taken care of all of the other big city problems and has now declared a war on lack-of-wireless. You mean "linksys" doesn't provide free wireless Internet service there already? 
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Re: WiFi NOT a fundamental right; SF mayor an idio
said by Omega :Even basic utilities are not "rights." You still have to pay for electricity, water and phone service. Well they basically tried that in CA before with electricity (misnamed it "deregulation"), and they ran shortages. Of course no one saw that coming like a freight train horns-a-blaring.
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Re: firearms vs. wi-fi basic right
said by gpancner :Wi-fi a "basic right"? If your not a criminal, don't bother owning a firearm in San Francisco. The second amendment doesn't apply. For any extremists (Like this mayor as one example), what they consider rights are only those that fall within their narrow mid set. The broader set of true rights, as outlined in the constitution, are considered outdated and worthless in their world order. I am sure the 2nd is not the only true right the extremists ignore. |
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pnh102
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| said by noone1 :For any extremists (Like this mayor as one example), what they consider rights are only those that fall within their narrow mid set. Or whatever gets them the most votes. Alexis de Toqueville was indeed correct when he said the death of democracy would occur when politicians give away the public treasury. It seems the goal of most left-wing extremists today is to create as many dependent people as possible so that they will get their votes.
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"civil rights", it's no wonder the U.S. has as many social problems as it does! I would think having a place to live, food to eat, a job, basic education, etc. would be a Helleva lot higher on the list of priorities than Wi-Fi. I doubt people without a PC give a Rat's Azz about Wi-Fi but they care about having fire, police, and basic city services. It's simply amazing that some public officials are so removed from reality that they haven't got a clue. |
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