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Kissimmee, FL | Re: LowFat Broadband exactly.
Also, I don't think the majority of users would want to switch to something 20 times slower than what they currently have to save a few bucks. I know I wouldn't. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: LowFat Broadband Just like cellphone plans, all the plans start coming out with more bells and whistles standard, which many do not use or care for, and becomes a cash cow.
The days of the cheap $19.99 for 150 minutes of coverage don't exist anymore, just as cheap internet for $25/month (DSL requires phone line so 'techinically' it might exist - $14.99 + $9.99 local land line). But they are getting hard to find without bundles.
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join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY | And how is this news? the bells refuse to break up their service bundles for the same reason. Naked DSL is a pipe dream, for exactly this reason. These are publicly traded companies who report to their stock holders. if they market a service that's going to reduce earnings, they'll be removed from office.
This would require legislation, methinks...to give officers of these companies some kind of excuse, so that when revenue streams decline, due to customers jumping to less profitable services, they would then have a fall guy to blame (the feds).
Again, it's a business, publicly traded, who's purpose is to make money for the investors. Offering a service that *might* result in lost revenue would be a career limiting event.
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Warren, MI | Re: And how is this news? If I threaten to leave for any reason other than the price what makes them think I'll stay for cheaper and still have the same old problems? That is just stupid.
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| Well I'm sure it's a math-game though....I'd like to see some internal Time Warner or Comcast predictions.
How many existing users would downgrade, versus how many new dial-up converts you could bring in with a $20 tier.
The latter in time you might be able to convince to upgrade to VoIP and other services.... | |
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kudos:1 | Re: And how is this news? said by Karl Bode: How many existing users would downgrade, versus how many new dial-up converts you could bring in with a $20 tier. No worry there. In my area, SBC is bringing in LOTS of people with their $15/month DSL. Remember, even 384k or 768k DSL is a helluva lot faster than AO-Hell on dial ... and now it's cheaper ! | |
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| | | | | Re: And how is this news? there is some people only using net to surf page and email.the amount is not small,they will be the most potential people to call for downgrade if giving a price less option.
you may ask why they not choose dial up instead,well,they not care speed,but they care consistant. | |
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I am sure the cable companies have done those studies and the fact that they have not rolled out lite tiers says a lot about what the results of those studies were. These companies are in business to make money and if lite tiers would have done that, we would be seeing them advertised a lot.
Well, that's my assumption. But the studies could have also been inconclusive, and the companies simply don't think it's worth taking the risk/reward dice roll. I think that's very likely, considering that results would vary significantly based on geographical location.
Also if there were studies, I bet those numbers change dramatically once cable broadband dominates VoIP. | |
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Winston Salem, NC | Re: i have something better Time Warner was happy when their only competition was with dialup then came Bell South with tier prices.
Before BS Dsl we were down to 1500 down and 256 up.Since then we are up to 5000 down and 365 up quite a difference.
It would be nice to have half the speed for half the money.
Oh yeah Bell South has raised their speeds to 6000 down.
Where will this end is anyones guess.
Time Warner is making a mint with Cable,Voip and Internet they are getting me for 126.00 a month with no VOIP though I do have HDTV so I don't feel so raped. | |
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| Re: i have something better Only bad thing bellsouth doesnt have dsl where i live and never will. I could see real crappie HDTV with vdsl. IM sorry sir you live to far away from the co would be there excuse. Im with you im on HDTV too.
I heard the one in sc here they are going to 8000 down and 768 up soon by the end of the year.
Bellsouth is just to slow,too late, too $$$, too much taxes. | |
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| | Rip Off This is a rip off. The price is too high for such a low speed. Look at what you get for $17 more. Verizon for a change has an idea 768k for $15, no bad. The only issue I have with that is it's only for 12 months. That part is a joke.
I bet you that 95% of subscribers out there would rather have a lower payment then a faster speeds. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Rip Off threaten to cancel service? isn't there a 12 month contract with comcast & roadrunner? or maybe this is after you have been with them for 12 months you threaten to cancel | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Rip Off said by Lysis: isn't there a 12 month contract with comcast & roadrunner? I'm not aware of any cable internet that requires a contract. Here with TW, it's definitely NO CONTRACT. | |
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| | | | said by Lysis:threaten to cancel service? isn't there a 12 month contract with comcast & roadrunner? or maybe this is after you have been with them for 12 months you threaten to cancel No Comcast contract. | |
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Columbus, OH | Roadrunner has no contracts that I'm aware of. I could cancel at anytime with no penalty! That freedom has some value in itself. | |
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Wyoming, MI | Not as good as SBC's 1500/384 for $15-$20 a month. | |
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| | | | Re: Rip Off Ever better, do they jack the price after contract? | |
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| | In Indianapolis its advertised on TV and in flyers They are pushing this Lite option a lot here in Indianapolis. (Brighthouse). | |
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| | | Re: In Indianapolis its advertised on TV and in fl yet you never see a comcast ad for the lite tier here. | |
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| | | Adelphia now has a 256 down/256 up plan that costs $24.99/month but they do it openly. I mean anybody can call them and ask for the basic plan and they will offer it. But then again, it is just "basic" in VOIP terms.
I downgraded to this plan after Adelphia jacked up my prices when my 1 year promotional period ended at $27.99. | |
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| | adelphia i have noticed that adelphia does this too. when i went to order my cabel internet i was only told of the preferd and premier service, nothing about the basic service they offer. i found out about the basic last week when i was on their site. | |
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join:2002-02-10
San Antonio, TX | i did.. i switched from time warner / earthlink cable to SBC DSL.. went from 5mbps down to 2.5mbps but my upload is higher now 
other than taking a few extra minutes t download big files... its not a problem... plus the lower bills per month are nice (got phone and DSL for $45 a month.
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI | A Comcastic idea! Since Comcast offers phone service, they could market a lite broadband tier (768/128) as DSL over Digital Voice. And, since DSL customers are accustomed to contracts, Comcast could copy an ILEC service contract and rope their customers in for a year. | |
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join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL | News vs. Editorial The fact that Comcast is making this available through its account retention desk is news.
The rest seems to be a somewhat pleading editorial.
Please separate the wheat from the chaff. Keep news in the news and editorials in the right side column under the writers name. | |
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join:2003-08-13
Albuquerque, NM | Price driven eventually I know in my area, Quest is expanding their dslams to more and more homes. Their new promos are offering 1.5 /800 for under 30 dollars. For many CC HSI customers without comcrap cable TV they are paying 60 bucks for HSI.. this is not a bad offer by Quest. I know Quest is gaining allot of customers in Albuquerque this year and its all about price. As the broadband matures and saturates, it will become more and more price driven. There is nothing CC will be able to do about that. At some point in the future, price will be the driving factor in gaining market shares.. Its like that with everything.
But after my year's promo is up with Quest, I will probably go back to CC for their promo.. I have been playing ISP's against each other for years going from one promo to another.. I never have any down time since I disconnect once I have the other going.. It only takes 5 minutes to set up a ISP. CC is really good about pro rating the bill on the day of disconnect.. even if the line is still live.. they don't charge once you call and say disconnect. I have saved a few thousand dollars in the last five years by jumping around. I know allot of folks will say its not worth it.. But usually after a few months of paying the CC predatory HSI price of 60 dollars is just too painful.. And I have always felt it was not fair since the analog TV service here is full of issues with ingress/wavy lines and noise. Why should I have to deal with comcrap TV to get a fair HSI price? In the end, I win anyway.. Its just takes a few minutes work once or twice a year. | |
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I just called comcast and told them I was switching to qwest fulll package. Phone sat tv and dsl for 79 bucks.
comcast countered with internet access for $29 per month for 1 year and $10 per month off my cable tv bill for 1 year. | |
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| | Low-Fat Broadband I really think that there should be cable HSI lite tiers to convert dial-up customers. DSL is the only broadband option that actually advertise their lite tiers. And if people can get DSL then they will eventually get those dial-up customers.
A lot of people will NOT get cable HSI because of the high price. People would rather stay with dial-up because it's much cheaper. And if customers can get DSL at very cheap prices then they will go to DSL if they can actually get the service.
The phone companies really need to speed up DSL deployment and get it to 100% of it's customers so they can actually beat cable companies.
Also, the download for any lite tier needs to be at least 768Kbps or 1.5Mbps.
There will be some customers who will downgrade to the lite tiers to save money. But, at the same time the cable companies could gain a lot of dial-up customers. Plus the customers who do downgrade may actually upgrade if things get better with their budgets.
You first have to get customers hooked on broadband and if they really like it they may actually upgrade from the lite tiers. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Low-Fat Broadband That's the ironic part of this...SBC (for example) has 3008/512 kbps for that $25. After protocol overhead you see about 2500/430 on speed tests, or 315/55 kilobytes/sec on transfers.
Yet, Comcast et. al. seem to think that 384/384 is worth $25 a month. Try $10.
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| | Clueless This stuff is marketed by the same clueless idiots who market cellphones. They decided a long time ago that bleeding the customers was preferable to actually providing a better service. This is why cellphone penetration in US lags far behind developed Europe and Asia countries.
These are the same idiots who think that keeping US broadband customers on yesterdays technology is also great.
See this (»www.salon.com/tech/feature/2005/···dex.html) article from Salon that shows haw truly far behind is the US when it comes to current broadband speeds and access vs the rest of the developed world. | |
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| | Could Charter Please offer High Fat.... ...I am tired of being forced to drink 2%....
I love the last line of the story that talks about fear of people downgrading from 5-8 that they are not using when I am screaming to get to 5-8mps...being stuck at 3 for a couple years now. | |
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| | | Re: Could Charter Please offer High Fat.... I hear ya, I'm starving for the greasy fatness of at least 5 or 6. It would be cool if they dropped the price of 3 to $30. I'm going to try out verizon dsl since they offer 3 with 768 up instead of the 256 i'm getting from charter. | |
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| | Adelphia.... Adelphia has had a 3 tier system. Of course they are bankrupt as well... | |
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1 edit | competition is a wonderful thing! when verizon started advertising their $14.95 broadband lite in our area, i called comcast & asked for a better deal on my $42.95 6.0/384 internet service. they served up the $29.99 for 12 months. i stayed. the service is quite fast & stable. competition is a wonderful thing. bub | |
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Rutland, MA | Charter is slow I think i am only at 2mb for $40 a month on charter...no dsl for me...to far away from the central office (and the phone lines suck....can only connect at 20k on dialup)
it looks like the plans gone up to 3mb without me knowing...i better check to make sure they actually raised mine to 3mb...or if they are just going to keep me in a granfathered plan untill i call
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