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Comments on news posted 2005-11-16 18:53:03: Sony/BMG today acknowledged a security risk found in their controversial DRM's uninstaller, discovered by Ed Felten and J. Alex Halderman. According to the Sony website, they're "working on a new tool to uninstall First4Internet XCP software". ..

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Weasel

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All I can say is -

- the fun never seems to stop.


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said by Weasel See Profile :

- the fun never seems to stop.
Just more bad PR for SONY. The decision to use this particular DRM software was a total disaster for them. I'll bet whoever made the decision to use the vendor that supplied them with this DRM software is on the chopping block, if not already fired.
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Techie714

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Nimrods!

WOW that entire deparment at Sony is filled with Nimrods! They need to get some better people in there that KNOW about technology.


toadlife
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Who is their CEO?

Homer Simpson?


Augustus III
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reply to Weasel
Re: All I can say is -

i just noticed the software had ebonics in it's name.. great.

probably been made by a script kiddie

Mr Dresden

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One word.

lawsuit!


Yowzaaah
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Cost benefit analysis time

All "losing hundreds of millions to piracy" aside, I'm sure someone at Sony/BMG has an idea of how many lost sales probably occurred due to piracy and how much having DRM adds to their share value in the marketplace. Assuming they're rational, the losses Sony is about to endure from this DRM debacle will DWARF any actual lost sale opportunity, AND unlike those phantom sales lost to piracy, the cost associated with this mess will be easy for shareholders to see.

Time will tell, but in the end it's all about money. Losing a large number of real dollars to settle claims arising from protecting speculative sale dollars of an undetermined amount seems like a great way for management to suddenly find themselves "pursuing other interests outside the company"
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Joe123456789

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Re: Who is their CEO?

said by toadlife See Profile :

Homer Simpson?
They will just move him the Sony power plant

Stumbles

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reply to Weasel
Re: All I can say is -

This is more fun than watching Windows issue a patch to fix a patch.

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I'm not so sure I trust Sony to remove a stealth root-kit they so deviously put on a users PC. I'd prefer a tool designed by a security software expert to remove it. He/she who holds nothing but the users best security interests in mind.
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said by Mr Dresden See Profile :

lawsuit!
There where 3 lawsuits filed last week against SONY. There could be more by now.


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said by Cyber2lz See Profile :

Not in corpoRATe America !!!
He/She will get a promotion and a big bonus !!!!
Clearly you don't understand corporate politics. Whoever made the decision is costing SONY millions. And that is the surest way to get thrown out on your ear.
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So much fun, it made it onto the national network news tonight.


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Confusing

This is starting to sound like that whole Pesto/Antipasto argument. I am totally lost now.
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Re: Cost benefit analysis time

I know I'll try and make a concerted effort not to buy Sony products from now on.

This shure makes the noise about the Piracy issue look tame.

And to think Sony's EULA states it's illegal to remove this "Controlware". HA! HA! HA! Idiots!

Can anyone think of a more stupid move?
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said by toadlife See Profile :

Homer Simpson?
Let's hope they do not start selling cars!
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said by Mr Dresden See Profile :

lawsuit!
There's an old joke comparing lawyers to sharks (or
why sharks don't attack them: professional courtesy).

Well Sony (maybe Bony was the right name after all - they
seem to be committing one boneheaded move after another)
is acting rather like a wounded fish in a sea full of sharks.
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Re: Cost benefit analysis time

Their DRM, according to their press releases (if you can
believe them) is not to deter "piracy", as they call it,
but rather is a pissing match between them and Apple. They
don't like the idea that Apple isn't opening their iTunes
store up to competing DRM formats (despite the fact that
it is the only one of the industry-approved music services
making any kind of money).

The losses due to physical counterfeiting of music, movies
and software likely exceeds that from p2p by a factor of
1000:1 or more. Yet these organized "pirates" aren't the
ones contending with copy protection. It is the soon-to-be
former customers of the entertainment industry companies
that ironically resort to less than legal methods to get
what they want because of the draconian DRM found on
legally purchased product.
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Thalidomide comes to mind when thinking harm vs. benefit, but yeah...this is a pretty major screw up and I'm predicting the phrase "DRM" may not be a high priority for Sony/BMG going forward.
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