woody7
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Torrance, CA | Hmmmmmm.....
Is this not a great country.....:):):)
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moonpuppy
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Glen Burnie, MD | "Comcast has slammed the telco for redlining. "
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| said by moonpuppy  :Pot meet kettle. I'm not sure about other parts of the country but in just about every part of metro Philadelphia (even some of the more rural areas) in which Comcast provides service, you can get all of their digital cable packages and broadband service. It would not be fair to accuse Comcast of redlining.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Utah should pass statewide franchise law
If Utah is serious about competition between telcos and cable, they should do what Texas did - pass a STATEWIDE franchise law and have it apply to both telcos and cable companies. That way, the law is neutral about who can build where. It isn't fair to let Qwest ignore franchise rules while applying them to cable.
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
| One of two things
Either Utopia is laying fiber near the house, or Qwest/Comcast are running scared and inserting more fiber.
I am pretty certain that Comcast has fiber to a box and copper to the house in my area (about a year or so ago), but I also notice that a lot of neighbors are still using DISH (and others) instead of cable. I also see Comcast working on the green street boxes almost every week, so I am not too sure how well the cable is working. (I still have the old fashion antenna pointed at the Farnsworth peak antenna farm).
Now, I hope that I can get a better deal on Utopia than I am getting on my Qwest services and maybe a more intelligent selection of TV channels than Comcast forces on people.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to moonpuppy
Re: "Comcast has slammed the telco for redlining.
How about Comcast lower their prices...
Cable
With Digital Cable you get more choices -- more than 200 channels, commercial free digital-quality music and an interactive on-screen guide. In areas that offer ON DEMAND, you can enjoy a library of more than 1,000 programs all ready to start when ever you want. If ON DEMAND is not yet available in your area, it is coming soon!
Digital Package(s) Premium Channels Other Features Monthly Price
Digital Platinum 5 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $100.40
Digital Gold 2 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $90.40
Digital Silver 1 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $80.40
Digital Plus N/A ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $65.40
Digital Classic N/A ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $60.40
CableLatino Completo N/A Canales de Música $52.95
CableLatino con HBO 1 Canales de Música $36.45
CableLatino N/A Canales de Música $26.45
CableLatino $17.95 al mes por un año N/A Canales de Música $17.95
Selecto N/A Onscreen Guide $12.95
Digital Sports Tier N/A ON DEMAND $5.00
Standard Cable
Promotional price is: $29.95/month for 3 month(s), ongoing price is $55.00/month
I have DirecTv, and I have the equivalent of Digital Classic package, and pay $51.99 for 3 sets after taxes and fees. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
 ·VOIPo
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Utah should pass statewide franchise law
said by TKJunkMail :If Utah is serious about competition between telcos and cable, they should do what Texas did - pass a STATEWIDE franchise law and have it apply to both telcos and cable companies. That way, the law is neutral about who can build where. It isn't fair to let Qwest ignore franchise rules while applying them to cable. Or how about REALLY enforcing the laws and make Qwest follow the same franchise rules as cable. Why does everything have to bow to the all mighty telco?
Oh, yeah, that's right... The telco's have all the politicians in there pockets. Unlike cable which haven't gained that power yet.
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Jamuka
join:2005-06-06 | How shocking
Comcast offering to cut prices in order to compete!
Oh, I'm so shocked! You mean that's what you have to do in order to compete? |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| What?. . . .
Qwests fiber is capped at 1.5 and 5megs? why even bother crippling fibre that way. We'll NEVER see 15/2 cox here with cox's only real competition being qworst. 
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Jamuka
Re: How shocking
said by Jamuka :Comcast offering to cut prices in order to compete! Oh, I'm so shocked! You mean that's what you have to do in order to compete? I guess Brian has finally been forced to put his BMW on sale... »Roberts Continues to Think Cable=BMW |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to dvd536
Re: What?. . . .
Gee, Cox/Qwest sure have you guys capped.
Back up in the boondocks of northern Ontario (population 1000 to be exact, 200+ miles from nearest McDonalds), most residents have 5Mbps with 1Mbps uplink for $37.95 CDN, and doesn't require TV.
»www.vianet.ca/cable_nwestern_on.php
Its somewhat nice to have a few OC-192's in your area though.
»www.bigpipeinc.com/pdf/network_m···bone.pdf
»www.bigpipeinc.com/pdf/network_m···rnet.pdf |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Utah should pass statewide franchise law
Heck, why have franchise agreements at all?
How about as long as any provider wants to serve residents of any area, large or small, all they have to do is get the proper roadwork, right-of-way, etc. permits and have at it?
If communities can no longer vet who they want to server them and are now at the will of the state ("phew", says the incumbents, "only one place to spread our bribes now!"), then why have them at all? Aren't the restricting the free market?
KM
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmmmm.....
said by woody7 :Is this not a great country.....:):):) well, in Utah anyway. not in Maryland. |
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TheGhost
Premium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL
clubs:
·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to en102
Re: What?. . . .
Don't go spouting those "LIES" - the reason why the US does not have as good of broadband as other industrialized countries is because our population is spread out. Serving areas like you describe in Canada should cost $$$/month for 200k, or at least that is what we have been told.
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Nobody123
@qwest.net
| The population is spread out "lie" is just as bad. Sure if you are trying to run lines to every farm house. But the argument doesn't hold water when you talk about major cities. Why couldn't they wire New York or San Francisco? The population density there is just as dense as other industrialized nations. Or am I to believe they won't run fiber until they can run it to each every house ever built, just to be fair to everyone.  |
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JonIrenicas
join:2002-06-22 | Gosh!!
They're more worried about broadband and tv then they are about harder punishments on those who would molest their children. Nice.... |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA
| reply to Nobody123
Re: What?. . . .
I live in the friggin boonies
3 meg up 3 meg down 4ms latency
49.95 a month
Vonage 16.50 with fees.
And QWEST told our ISP that broadband could not be deployed here.
QWEST eat SH*T
I will never be a customer of yours ever again. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
·VOIPo
| reply to KoolMoe
Re: Utah should pass statewide franchise law
said by KoolMoe :Heck, why have franchise agreements at all? How about as long as any provider wants to serve residents of any area, large or small, all they have to do is get the proper roadwork, right-of-way, etc. permits and have at it? If communities can no longer vet who they want to server them and are now at the will of the state ("phew", says the incumbents, "only one place to spread our bribes now!"), then why have them at all? Aren't the restricting the free market? KM Because in most cases, the locals used franchise agreements to not only gain additional revenue and services from the provider, such as local programming, but they used them to try and keep the provider in line with a set of standards for customer service.
If it weren't for franchise agreements, you wouldn't have local cable offices, you wouldn't have local tech support, the crappy customer support you get now would be even worse if existent at all. Just think about the crappy service you hear everyone complain about with cable providers. Now get rid of franchise agreements at the local level and you can expect those complaints to be even more frequent.
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy
| Oh, I completely agree with you.
Thing is, in Texas, those local franchise agreements are now gone.
So why even have franchise agreements at all anymore? State's already regulate the various permitting process. What's the point of a state franchise agreement? More streamlined paperwork? Or perhaps a way for politicians to still get a little more palm grease to lockout disfavored competition...
KM
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Utopia on da way
@comcast.net
| reply to RayW
Re: One of two things
I have had CC internet since the start-up here in the Layton area. I can tell you for sure, my service has been more-than good; it has been great. My speed and connection are always working as advertised.
As for the competition with Qwest, ha ha what a joke. I will not trade my 6mb cc for 1.5 qwest. Utopia, has not come to Northern Utah, yet, so no price break. When Utopia, does get this far north of SLC, you bet I will be checking their service plans. Oooh Yea! CC, can you smell what Utopia, is cooking? |
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