RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
| About time.
What we need is more local entities to get involved doing their own infrastructure without restrictions placed on them by paid off state lawmakers at the behest of the companies that should be doing it but prefer to prevent others from proving them wrong.
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statecop
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Beverly Hills, CA | What is the problem with it?
Is it something to do with the speed, latency, or does it have sort of distance limits similar to dsl?
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Ham band guy
join:2005-07-13
Minneapolis, MN
| Re:BPL not even a niche technology
All I have to say is,on behalf of folks who understand
exactly how RF,antennas,transmission lines,and the physical layer(ISO layer 1) is:
See,I told you so!!!
And we can't forget about the marketplace,Darwin's therories are alive and well.
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Hope?
That's a far cry from ex-FCC chief Powell's tag of "great broadband hope."
Powell (no doubt at the behest of the stock scammers promoting this) is the "great broadband dope". Kev isn't much better but at least he's got one foot on the ground. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| The Great thing about this...
Is the fact there can be no complaints that BPL wasn't given a chance. I is failing on it's own. After BPL disapears from the scene because of the many failed trials we are not likely to see it rear it ugly head again.:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Low voltage Tech's are wimps, Real tech's use 45 pound filament transformers, plate voltages no less then 2400 volts with at least 10 amp's lighting 8877 triodes...BPL I'm coming to get you. |
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Vonage User5
join:2004-05-15
Hillsborough, NC | reply to RadioDoc
Re: Hope?
I would at least like to hear the results from the Duke Power trials that were going on in the Carolinas. |
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iffy
join:2004-02-07
Columbus, OH | Not an ISP
What if its used not as an ISP, but as a conduit to get info from appliances or other info for marketing? Seems like an ideal solution as a back door into the home. |
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | Why in the world would I want a friggin refrigerator connected to a network? None. That's why. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | reply to Transmaster
Re: The Great thing about this...
You forgot to mention one thing.
We are still waiting for our anonymous troll to come strolling in here with his great stock tips and BPL "hype" articles.  :D:D |
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JeedaiKnight
0verthinking
Premium
join:2002-03-15
Portland, OR
| Some people need hope!
I'm not into the technology, so don't bash me for "BPL kills this wavelength" or whatever. But for some of us rural folks, BPL might be a great option. I know at my parent's house, there are no cable lines, we are too far away from a CO that is DSL-equipped to get that, and no wireless reaches us. Our only option is sattellite, which is expensive and laggy. What do we do? All you city folks can bash BPL all you want...but my parents would give anything short of paying thousands of dollars to wire us a chance to get better than the 21.6K dial-up we have. (yes, it always connects that slow.) I sure hope something else pops up in BPL's place...some people are still suffering!
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | Pathetic
...when a website has to link to itself as a source of negativity. We need some real world results. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to JeedaiKnight
Re: Some people need hope!
Maybe you haven't seen the articles.
BPL needs repeaters every 1000 feet. Add those up and you can see the costs associated with rural deployment. The same costs that cable and telcos have servicing rural areas. Just because you have powerlines does not mean you could get BPL.
Do a search on here and you will see an article where Comcast wants $10,000 to wire up one small area.
BPL was never going to serve rural areas. PERIOD. |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA | reply to statecop
Re: What is the problem with it?
FAQ: »www.qrpis.org/~k3ng/bpl.html |
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BPLSUCKS
@204.38.x.x | See user name
BPL is dead...give it up already. What would be better is broadcasting a Wi-Fi signal through the lines and using the RF radiation usefully...we see how the lines leak off RF signals so why not broadcast a useful signal? |
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iffy
join:2004-02-07
Columbus, OH
| reply to Stumbles
Re: Not an ISP
No, you wouldn't. And you would never set it up for that (much less pay for something like that). But on the other end, its a marketers dream, and if it could be done over BPL without any conumer effort (or knowledge?), it would be worth alot of money. |
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Vonage User5
join:2004-05-15
Hillsborough, NC | reply to Dagda1175
Re: Pathetic
Im in agreement, until i see the results i will withold judgment good or bad. |
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pcutils
@71.241.x.x
| Its just not a good option
That doesn't mean that they couldn't run FIBER over their rights of way: telephone poles/underground deployment to the home. If anyone can do this efficiently, its electric companies (Florida and California being the only noteable exceptions to the rule). |
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pb5k
more cowbell
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ
 ·Cox HSI
| Why Bother?
I'm not a huge fan of most of these goofy alternative ways to deliver broadband. Consumers right now already have a good selection of choices.
If you're in a metro area you generally can get access to DSL or Cable, and if you're not you can always tough it out with dialup or go satellite (Wildblue has a lot of good reviews,1.5 megs down, 256k up, and is $50 a month.)
The only one of these alternative broadband systems I like is one they proposed in Michigan. A few small communities have considered putting wireless transmitters on grain towers. They may as well be skyscrapers given our geography, and can service large areas. It would be great competition for satellite, given that it would have far less latency.
That type of strategy worked well for the chinese when they wanted a phone system but didn't want to run a bunch of expensive wire. Granted it's not perfect but it gives you basic service in a much shorter period of time and probably at much lower expense. |
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Toadman
How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
1 edit | reply to moonpuppy
Re: Some people need hope!
I agree, every rural area has phone lines, but they are not all serviced by DSL, they are limited by distance. BPL is limited too and the companies that roll it out are going to look for the maximum penetration for the minimal cash outlay. |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to Vonage User5
Re: Hope?
That they are not trumpeting those trial results from the highest power pole speaks volumes. |
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