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Comments on news posted 2005-11-26 11:48:28: The town of Princeton, IL is set to plug in the neighborhood (Chicago Tribune) as they prepare to launch broadband over power lines (BPL) for their 7,500 residents next month. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 15 customers is hardly a good test

The electric company spokesman is happy that a 15 person test proves his BPL service is ready for deployment. It will be interesting to see if that evaluation holds up when the number of subscribers starts getting into the thousands - if it does indeed get that many people to sign on. Especially since the competitors have dropped their prices:»www.chicagotribune.com/business/···ness-hed
Since the city installed fiber and started testing BPL the local cable and phone operators upgraded their systems and cut service rates, he said.
»princeton-il.com/pdf/budget2005.pdf
Municipal Utilities Budget in the amount of $12,462,962 (including $3,855,342 in capital expenditures)...
The Utilities Budget, which consists of the water, sewer, and electric operations,includes funding for several large capital projects including the new 1.5 million gallon water tower, the 12-mile fiber-optic backbone, and an update of the City’s comprehensive sanitary sewer plan.
Now that the cable and telco have dropped prices, the muni BPL may never get the # of customers they need to pay off the capital expenditures for the BPL system.
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I had to chuckle when I read that quote ... only 15 testers?


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I would say if its successful the electric company will make revenue out of it .


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Interfearence free?

Is this the interference free BPL?
One thing I have never understood is why the power companies just don't run fiber along their transmission lines and run it into homes. That would make the telco's tremble in their boots/italian shoes.


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Re: 15 customers is hardly a good test

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The electric company spokesman is happy that a 15 person test proves his BPL service is ready for deployment. It will be interesting to see if that evaluation holds up when the number of subscribers starts getting into the thousands - if it does indeed get that many people to sign on. Especially since the competitors have dropped their prices:»www.chicagotribune.com/business/···ness-hed
Since the city installed fiber and started testing BPL the local cable and phone operators upgraded their systems and cut service rates, he said.
»princeton-il.com/pdf/budget2005.pdf
Municipal Utilities Budget in the amount of $12,462,962 (including $3,855,342 in capital expenditures)...
The Utilities Budget, which consists of the water, sewer, and electric operations,includes funding for several large capital projects including the new 1.5 million gallon water tower, the 12-mile fiber-optic backbone, and an update of the City’s comprehensive sanitary sewer plan.
Now that the cable and telco have dropped prices, the muni BPL may never get the # of customers they need to pay off the capital expenditures for the BPL system.
Which is why this type of predatory pricing these competitors engage in is illegal...not like anything will ever happen to them though.
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Speeds?

What kind of speeds can you get from this?


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Re: 15 customers is hardly a good test

Why is the cemetery operating at a $190,175 per year loss?

Why does the city provide cemetery services? Can't this function be provided by private industry?
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BSMOG is a better idea!

Eh, I like my idea of broadband over smog or maybe even methane better cause it's much better for the environment! Flubber optics still works better in my book though!

broadband over subspace kicks fios's arse anyday!
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Re: 15 customers is hardly a good test

What about families that can't afford what a private industry charges for burying you? Or if you're the last one in your family and you got no money left? Society would have to find a place to put those bodies in the ground, no?


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said by LilYoda See Profile :

What about families that can't afford what a private industry charges for burying you? Or if you're the last one in your family and you got no money left? Society would have to find a place to put those bodies in the ground, no?
Hmmmm...none of those reasons is sufficient to incur a $190k loss...right?

They could pay a private owner on a per-case basis...

This is a town with a population of just over 7,000...how many people die here each year?

I realize that this is OT but it just struck me as odd when I looked at the budget...
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said by John Galt See Profile :

I realize that this is OT but it just struck me as odd when I looked at the budget...
It's a microcosm of the state and federal budgets. Municipalities have pork too!


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What kind of speeds can you get from this?
Under optimal conditions 512/128
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Re: Interfearence free?

said by BPLSUCKS :

One thing I have never understood is why the power companies just don't run fiber along their transmission lines and run it into homes.
Ever sit a power supply brick near the phone line attached to your dial up modem? The interference from the power line would be bad to run fibre along the lines. theres a reason why this isnt done and it isnt a money factor.
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Re: BSMOG is a better idea!

said by Endgame See Profile :

broadband over subspace kicks fios's arse anyday!
Last time I checked, that's 60 times the speed of light!
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Re: Interfearence free?

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Ever sit a power supply brick near the phone line attached to your dial up modem? The interference from the power line would be bad to run fibre along the lines. theres a reason why this isnt done and it isnt a money factor.
Yeah...OK.



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Re: 15 customers is hardly a good test

said by John Galt See Profile :

Hmmmm...none of those reasons is sufficient to incur a $190k loss...right?
Probably not. Was more responding to your question about why the local government was getting involved instead of a private company

Folic

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Re: Speeds?

How is it worth it then?


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Re: BSMOG is a better idea!

Sure, but that can't beat broadband over entangled quantum particles. The data gets there even before you send it!
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