kalphearion
In nomine Patri
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join:2003-11-08
Denver, CO
clubs:
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| They will get what they want
Cable CO's will never provide "a-la-carte" service. yes it will save the consume some cash, but it won't profit for the greedy cable exec's.
a la carte will never happen, unless Hell freezes over and cable exec's grow a heart and cater to the end users' wants. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
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1 edit | Falwell to the rescue
VCHIP the terrorist fags! |
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| Packages
Rather Than "a la carte" why not just make a Tv with a V-chip in it so that parents can control access.. Oh that's right that plan failed miserably and you guessed it we all paid for it. (It's obvious that it has failed other wise we wouldn't be discussing this.)
Direct Tv has 3-4 different packages..
Why not add another one that is the "decency package"
This is Just another way for media outlets to rape the customer. |
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mabus
Dissociated But Not Disconnected
join:2002-11-12
Fort Wayne, IN
| televangelism is lame anyways
i'd rather watch infomericals anyways... listening to some blow-hard try to shove their beliefs down my throat via a one-way medium is just plain wrong no matter how you look at it.
now if tv was more interactive and you could turn those numbnuts preachers into enemies in an FPS (and subsequently fragging them repeatedly with a BFG), then subscribing to the channel might be more worthwhile.
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jeffs471
join:2005-09-16
Camarillo, CA
| reply to kalphearion
Re: They will get what they want
said by kalphearion  :Cable CO's will never provide "a-la-carte" service. yes it will save the consume some cash, but it won't profit for the greedy cable exec's. a la carte will never happen, unless Hell freezes over and cable exec's grow a heart and cater to the end users' wants. charge 5.00 dollars each for the very popular channels ie tbs, tnt, comedy central and charge 1.00 for the crub like fuse.
Advertise the service with wording such as "channels as low as 99 cents" however when you add up all the channels you actually watch, the popular ones, you end up paying just as much or more than before but are getting less channels. I see the cable company making money anyway it goes, don't worry they will figure out a way. Its people like espn and mtv who are against it because they like to force their crappy second tier channels on us in order to get the popular channel everybody wants. |
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skelet0r
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join:2004-04-26
Florence, AL | reply to packetscan
Re: Packages
Its not about the V-chip. Its about being able to choose the channels you want and pay for only what you want. |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL | Why do they worry???
Why do they worry, unless they know they are lying assholes who noone would ever pay to watch if they had a choice. |
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jjoshua
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | Discussed by Howard Stern
A very funny discussion about this on Howard this morning.
These channels are going to go out of business very quickly.
Are you going to pay for the church channels? QVC? HSN? TV Guide? Lifetime? |
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anonpronman
@69.183.x.x
| reply to skelet0r
Re: Packages
Um no it's not..
Go read up on who is supporting this "pricing" scheme.
And Finally why would they do this if there wasn't a benefit for them. This will not help the consumer . Ok maybe it will help the people that no longer care for their children and leave the child's raising to the government. |
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
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join:2004-11-12
| reply to jeffs471
Re: They will get what they want
Because the cable cos put out XX amount of dollars for crud like FUSE and the smaller channels like BBC and SCI FI and such.
With only a minority of people subscribing to these channels and the channels themselves setting their own prices what do you think you will REALLY be paying?
No cable company is going to give you a channel for .99 when it costs them 6.50 per subscribed sub to offer it becasue the subscriber base is so low. They cant make money off of locals either.
Those that like ESPN and OVATION and other niche, genre channels will be paying through the nose for these channels.
Hell if Im going to pay the same Im paying now to receive 10 channles I REALLY REALLY want and not be able to view the other 200 or so channels I used to get for the same price. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Freedom of speech vs Right to be heard
said by the article :
"We don't just want to preach to the choir; we want to reach the unchurched," said Paul Crouch Jr. of Trinity Broadcast Network in Santa Ana. "The bottom line is that we want to be everywhere on cable."
I'm not at all interested in their programming. I can't hit the "change channel" button fast enough if their stuff comes on. So why would they want to force me to watch their shows? They might have a right to broadcast their religious opinions, but I have a right to not listen.
If I don't have a la carte cable, then I'll simply skip past their programming. Or, if nothing else is on, I'll (*gasp!*) turn off the TV. Maybe I'll surf the Net, maybe I'll read a book, maybe I'll play with my son or talk with my wife. All are more attractive options to me than listening to some televangelist preach.
said by the article :
But Winters contends that religious broadcasters oppose more cable choice because they "are very fearful of losing any market share."
Ah, there it is. It's all about the eyeballs. Just like a spammer wants to keep my e-mail address on his list because he thinks saying that he reaches 100 million e-mail addresses is more impressive than saying he reaches 10,000 interested e-mail addresses. The telemarketers would like to claim that they could be viewed by 100 million people rather than say that they have an actual following of 10,000 people.
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to ronpin
Re: Falwell to the rescue
VCHIP the fags?!?!
ROTFLMAO. Just too damn funny. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| reply to kalphearion
Re: They will get what they want
I don't think it'll never happen, but it'll never be cost effective. And not because a la carte is flawed in some way, but because the cable companies will make sure it is not cost effective.
If they are forced into offering a la carte programming, they'll do some studies to find out how many channels the average person would order. Then they'll price the individual channels so that the total price is about the same as (if not higher than) their package prices.
In addition, they may price popular channels higher than unpopular ones. This would mean that it would take fewer channels on average to make a la carte more expensive than packages.
They would run with this for awhile, then do a study on cable costs and find (*surprise* *surprise*) that a la carte households were paying more than package households on average. This study would "prove" that a la carte was fundamentally flawed and they would use it to lobby to remove the requirement to offer an a la carte option.
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celeritypc
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join:2004-05-15
Caldwell, NJ
| reply to jjoshua
Re: Discussed by Howard Stern
You can be sure that channels like QVC or HSN will be available for free. These channels make tons of money as it is. What I see happening if the ala carte scenario ever goes through is a basic package consisting of OTA channels, shopping, public access and perhaps a few others like C-SPAN and TV-Guide. You would then have the option of taking bundles of channels (movies, sports, music, etc) or picking and choosing individual channels at a higher cost. Either way, people will pay more and some of the niche channels may indeed fold.
As for the televangelists, they just want to be available to as many eyeballs as possible. With ala carte, they know quite a few people will not willingly pay for their channels (the very people they want to reach.) |
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ctceo
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join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
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| Least Commercial
This is what they are worried about. Tho loss is commercial revenue. If I had a choice in my channels I would definitely pick channels with no commercial time other than maybe the 2-hr commercial interval, or very little commercials. When commercials come on I promptly switch the channel, and that's what I've taught the kids to do.
If they want to do something right then they need to create the "Commercial Channels" All commercials All the time. The Same with "The religious Channel" All-Religions all the time. Make those part of a separate package so they do not taint and unilaterally destroy the value of other packages with channels such as CourtTV, Playboy Channel, Spice, MTV, BET, Discovery, Disney, You know the channels really worth watching.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| reply to jjoshua
Re: Discussed by Howard Stern
said by jjoshua :Are you going to pay for the church channels? QVC? HSN? TV Guide? Lifetime? Good question.
Why should anyone pay for religious channels they may not want? If over 40% of our population espouse Christian beliefs (such as creation defined in Genesis), isn't a viable 'market' for religious programming implied?
Put them alongside HBO. Belly up to the monthly plate, boys and girls.
Market fundamentalism: When no one questions the flawed assumption that state intervention in the marketplace is inherently bad. |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Nobody cares about televangelists
Not even Christians really. They just ask for money and push the button on the clap machine. Yuck. |
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skelet0r
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join:2004-04-26
Florence, AL | reply to anonpronman
Re: Packages
So, you mean every parent that gives thier child ADD drugs or any other psychotropic drug? |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to packetscan
Every digital cable box and satellite recevier that I've come across has the ability to lock out either entire channels or programming based on content or rating. But of course for the religious right, that isn't good enough. Parents obviously shouldn't have to actually set limits for their children...it should be done for them.
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
Premium
join:2004-11-12
| reply to ctceo
Re: Least Commercial
said by ctceo :If they want to do something right then they need to create the "Commercial Channels" All commercials All the time. Great Idea! We should do that with radio to!
Hold me close as our economy as we know it crumbles into a third world country!
Such a visionary. |
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