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Comments on news posted 2005-12-01 10:35:55: According to the Washington Post, a BellSouth executive yesterday told reporters and analysts that the telco should be able to charge certain websites more if they wish to be accessed by customers more quickly. ..

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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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And the Greedy get greedier,....

Please...they get enough right now, and they want even more control? Please.


packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
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Monopolist

I did say this would be coming!

Damn trolls Wouldn't Listen!
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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
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WTF

is that douchebag smocking?!

WMLGuy

join:2000-06-05
Rockaway, NJ

Confused

Quote from article:

"If I go to the airport, I can buy a coach standby ticket or a first-class ticket," Smith said. "In the shipping business, I can get two-day air or six-day ground."

Bellsouth, along with every other ISP, has this today. Slow Internet access (six-day ground): $14/month
Faster Internet access (two-day air): $40+/month


King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
hahaha

this is one of the reasons why I ditched BS and went with Speakeasy and Vonage. Now they have NO control over my bandwidth.
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apsinkus

join:2002-06-25
Chicago, IL
won't hold water

Just cause I want a Ferrari, does not mean I can have one.

BellSouth argument will not stand up in court. Anti-trust laws will kick in real soon.

LoungeLizard2

join:2003-11-21
Vallejo, CA
Bellsouth Clown

Who is this BellSouth clown, and what Circus do we send him to?


skelet0r
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join:2004-04-26
Florence, AL

MONEY!

I was under the impression that if you paid to run a web server, that you were getting a good line, hence the higher bill. So basically they are saying that they can give extra bandwidth, for special applications, but you have to pay even more, nice. So when are they going to start charging extra because you play games online, I mean surely that takes up as much bandwidth as Voip.


packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
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Poser Mobile?

Poser BELL !

Jonbo298

join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA

reply to ptrowski
Re: And the Greedy get greedier,....

We all know Google eats up a ton of bandwidth. If I had DSL with them, I guess I should be afraid it takes half a second more to get search results or even load Google's site.

How much bandwidth did it consume to search Google again? It surely must take megs upon megs of precious bandwidth to do so

petecellar

join:2002-10-15
Philadelphia, PA
resource hog

Right- Because Google's pages take up sooo much bandwidth with their fancy graphics and busy pages!

petecellar

join:2002-10-15
Philadelphia, PA

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They would just use yahoo or something - then they'll have to charge them too!


MSauk
MSauk
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join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT
Is that crack I smell?

hmmm, what is that smell? ......is that crack? I think it is time that they drug test BS executives!


skelet0r
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join:2004-04-26
Florence, AL

reply to petecellar
Re: resource hog

they aren't talking about Google, they are talking about sites like Heavy or Liquid Generation. They are also talking about applications that use bandwidth at a constant rate, such as Voip and Videochat. Basically, it seems to me they are saying that they can reduce latency for said applications, its just going to cost more, which is pretty sad. You would think that Qos would be a concern for all Telcos and Cable internet providers, but apperantly only if you are willing to spend.


richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

SBC now Bell South


Both got it wrong. When I buy service from a Telco or Cable provider, I am buying a connection not content. Google provides content but not the connection. It is ridiculous for a Telco to demand me or a company pays for content that is not being provided by the Telco. If Google wants to levy a charge for content it is Google’s business not Bell South.


ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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·VOIPo


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Here we go....

If I remember correctly, SBC was the first to start this kind of talk a few weeks back. Now that one telco has started I guess all of them are going to jump on the band wagon.

I see it like this.. I pay my ISP for access to the internet for getting to the information I need. I don't care whether it is web pages, FTP or Voip, I pay for access to the internet. I DO NOT pay for a higher speed plan to access just only the data that is on my ISP's network.

I can see it now. The next marketing will be "15 MegaBit Unlimited High Speed Internet Access".

Fine Print: Unlimited means only 2 GB per month data transfer. High Speed Internet Access means only to those parts of the network that we own and control. All access out of our control will be limited to 50 kilobits per second unless you pay us much more!
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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·DSL EXTREME

reply to packetscan
Re: Monopolist

Any way for a company to 'legally' make money for its shareholders.

If they are at a profit cap on their current product, start extorting money. What good would a 6000/608 product be, if a filter the size of a T1 was put on a main portal. I'm sure that it Bell South had its VoIP product out, there wouldn't b e a traffic issue, and they would be the first to cry foul if someone filtered their traffic.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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reply to packetscan
said by packetscan See Profile :

I did say this would be coming!

Damn trolls Wouldn't Listen!
So you switch ISPs. What's the big deal?
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tkdslr

join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL
·Speakeasy


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Same argument got Level 3 in Trouble..

Same argument got Level 3 in trouble,
with the provisions of the Clayton Anti-trust Act.

Deceiving it's retail customers and then with holding access in exchange for a ransom. BS that's a really bad idea.

I.E. It is deceptive to advertise enhanced DSL speeds, if the customer can only connect(at those rates) to those content providers who have to payed off BS.


Wills

join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL

reply to apsinkus
Re: won't hold water

Why wouldn't this hold up? This is no different than Google charging to list your page higher in their search engine.

BellSouth is doing the exact same thing to Google...
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