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Comments on news posted 2005-12-01 15:01:21: A user writes in: "For the second time in just over a month, Comcast's smtp servers are not accepting e-mail destined for the popular MSN Hotmail service. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 It is rejecting as I post this: error msg

This is the error msg:
The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'xxxxxxx@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test hotmail', Account: 'xxx xxxxxxx', Server: 'smtp.comcast.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 permit denied', Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

And it is being done by Comcast server; not the Hotmail server.
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WMLGuy

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Looks like they are testing some kind of email authentication.

ddurant

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said by WMLGuy See Profile :

Looks like they are testing some kind of email authentication.
Reject everything until spammers get bored and go away?

Brilliant!


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said by WMLGuy See Profile :

Looks like they are testing some kind of email authentication.
no... if they were using authentication to avoid mail relay then @msn.com or @hotmail.com couldn't use comcast's outgoing mail servers... comcast is blocking mail going TO msn or hotmail addresses. The only logical response I can see is because the new sober variant has hit MSN/hotmail pretty hard.
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WMLGuy

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I guess they can't setup one way authentication or authentication for specific domains.


ropeguru
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Yup...

My wife tried sending an email yesterday through COmcast to Hotmail and it bounced. She asked me why but the bounce had basically no usable info in it.

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rudnicke
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Lying

It's amazing how socially acceptable it is to lie these days.

r8drfan4ever

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Do you have proof of this?


Karl Bode
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I have proof my toaster is sentient.


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I have proof my toaster is.



masterwolfe2
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reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I have proof my toaster is sentient.
and my microwave is cheating on me with your toaster!
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Krispy
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Not just Comcast MSN/Hotmail

The ISP I work for (Cogeco) is experiencing massive delivery problems with Hotmail, we're seeing minimum delivery delays of 3+ hours and that's GOOD! We're seeing maximum delivery delays of over 20+ hours.

Most of Hotmails servers are intermittent accepting mail, if we sent them 10 emails we'll see delivery for 2 emails and then Connection refused (port 25) or Connection timed out (port 25) for the other 8. As per usual Hotmail isn't saying anything, even their status page states all is good The service is available; there are no known network issues at this time. which is simply not true.

I know many other ISPs are seeing this and thus far attempts to contact, work with, get a heartbeat from Hotmail have been met with silence...we could probably help them out if they'd only talk to any of us. They even left me a voicemail last week but many messages later we still have no contact with them.

BTW, this isn't anything new, Hotmail rarely works 100% but generally speaking it's much better then of late which is why other ISPs are noticing problems as well. I suspect much of this is likely due to new virus variants of last week and their servers getting hit hard...that's understandable, I just wish they'd talk to the rest of us as when Hotmail has issues accepting mail it affects our services and we need to take measures to ensure non-hotmail delivery is not impacted by the pain of hotmail.

Hotmail people....if you're out there...there's a bunch of us that want to talk to you! See my profile and contact me if you'd like to work with us Canadian ISPs on this. (This is how bad it is, I'm pleading for hotmail contact on a public site!)
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zeker00

comcast vs hotmail

Who can COMCAST users complain to???


jbob
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Finally admitting to blocking

This afternoon we finally got some people on the Comcast Forums to admit that Comcast was indeed blocking all mail sent to Hotmail/MSN accounts. Comcast's own smtp servers are doing the blocking it would appear. They say they are doing this to keep the mail from building up in the mail queues until the issues with MSN/Hotmail are worked out. The big issue I have is they are blocking any message that even has one Hotmail/MSN recipient. So if you are sending a message to 10 of your friends and one is on Hotmail, the whole message is rejected. Surely there is a way to manage this better.

uvacow

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Charlottesville, VA
tell your friends to not use hotmail

JSRoman
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reply to zeker00
Re: comcast vs hotmail

said by zeker00 :

Who can COMCAST users complain to???
Hotmail


Krispy
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reply to jbob
Re: Finally admitting to blocking

said by jbob See Profile :

Surely there is a way to manage this better.
Yes there is. I don't know their setup but it would seem reasonable to assume they could map all hotmail destined messages to one specific server so that the queued hotmail would only affect queued hotmail.
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Krispy
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reply to zeker00
Re: comcast vs hotmail

said by zeker00 :

Who can COMCAST users complain to???
Comcast


AthlGrond
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Aurora, CO
reply to zeker00
said by zeker00 :

Who can COMCAST users complain to???
Mother.
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