Zorglub
join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA | Who cares?
Who cares about Nintendo anymore anyway?
Most gamers have grown out of their GC to Xbox 360 and the Sony stuff. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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| Serious PR?
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Finally, playing games with high definition graphics requires a system with loads of RAM and costly high-end graphics chips, both of which make it prohibitively expensive for most consumers.
Translation: The revolution will have a small amount of RAM and a mediocre graphics chip.
And I'm disgusted by their comments about high costs of developing high definition games. Game makers have been designing multi-resolution PC games for decades. When everything is 3D-rendered, scaling is not a big issue.
-- Rob
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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Re: Who cares?
I do. Nintendo (or whatever team they decide to license to) always manages to make a stunning game with their franchises that makes the console worthwhile. Metroid Prime 1 & 2 made the GC worth every dime I paid for it. The new Zelda is looking hot, too.
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Guru
join:2005-12-01
Canada | supernintendo
Never looked at this gaming console ever since I played around with Supernintendo more than like 10 years ago. |
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DarkSorcerer
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join:2004-06-15
Belleview, FL
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Re: Serious PR?
You don't need a sweet graphics card to make an awesome game, there are some games that had only mediocre graphics but are considered the best games of all time. Most people think FF7 is better then any of the current FF games, and they have kick @$$ graphics, Why Count nintendo out just cuz you can't see your pimples in the reflection? Sides, Resident Evil LOOKED SWEET on the rebuilt egine for GC so you know that Its gonna at least be sweet for the REV.
As far as The other guys comments about the 360, yeah they really made perfect dark better. NOT. Perfect dark for n64 still kicks its ass. I ownj all 3 systems GC still has the most replay value for its games. Metroid Zelda and Such |
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badtrip
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
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200,000 is pretty good for only one major game on a handheld. However, I'll bet $$ to donuts that as Animal Crossing matures and Metriod hits next year, the Nintendo's wireless users will increase dramatically.
Nintendo's wireless is very well done. It's transparent, easy enough for a child to set up and best of all, free.
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livininarizona
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join:2001-08-05
Merced, CA
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stick to games nintendo, it's your best bet. |
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badtrip
East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | reply to djrobx
Re: Serious PR?
My brain is going to explode. You have one pro Nintendo and one con Nintendo post right next to each other:D |
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MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA
| I wonder...
I haven't owned a console since the late 80's and early 90's when I had a Nintendo ('NES').
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kid Icarus, etc.... they were all awesome games. I'm not one for the complicated games these days with 20 buttons and 500 moves.
That being said, do you think that I would like the newest versions of the three aforementioned games? .. or should I just bid on a NES on eBay and forget the newer consoles? |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| Problem for XBOX and PSP3
Nintendo is far cheaper to buy at $99 and has a cult following. Personally, I think eventually XBOX better start generating positve news AND profits. Playstation and Nintendo makes money. XBOX makes money only on licensing (if it does--Microsoft won't reveal numbers). XBOX has the right idea about technology, but like Windows, fails to execute and bring a quality product EVERY time causing update after update and update (or patch after patch after patch to fix the stupid software that should've been tested in the first place).
Nintendo is perfectly happy dominating the kiddie market and Playstation already dominates the adult market.
The problem with all of them: lack of games. Personally, I don't have oodles of time to devote to learning every stupid thing or nuance about a game. I want to plug-n-play and not have to spend stupendous amounts of time trying to figure everything out. I don't mind a challenge, just not a 30 hour challenge. I want to escape for a few hours now and then and not have to constantly think.
My 2 cent$: Virtual Reality is the next step. When VR becomes available, say goodbye to all 3 of them. Wouldn't you like to BE the character not just play it? VR is where the money is at in the future. Some already exists. Of course, once moved past porn, then the fun begins. |
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MikegotOOL
join:2001-01-21
East Setauket, NY
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Re: I wonder...
SNES RAWKS MI SOKS |
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badtrip
East Bay
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Re: Who cares?
said by Zorglub  :Who cares about Nintendo anymore anyway? Most gamers have grown out of their GC to Xbox 360 and the Sony stuff. For some of us old-timers, now that Sega is pretty much gone all we have left to care about is Nintendo.
Besides, the last really "great" game I played was RE4 on the GC. Plus Nintendo makes some great games, I'm really looking forward to Twilight Princess.
Xbox 360 is just too expensive. $400 for a console and $60 a game is just too much. You're talking ~$500 just to play one game and there aint any games out there that I can see that are worth $500 to play. Maybe that will change in a year or so, but until then... |
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Samwoo
join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | reply to livininarizona
Re: Please
yes... and a relatively cheaper system to develop on and to sell allows them to make nice games without licensing issues and for an audience that can or do not want to pay for a supercomputer. |
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starcaptor
join:2000-08-19
East Northport, NY
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Re: I wonder...
Seems to be alot of market speak for saying that they are basically not going to pack alot of RAM and are you going to not use that powerful a graphics chip.
Considering that any machine is best when it gets the support of many third parties, and since the other two consoles are headed into HD labd, wont the games already be made for HD?? Plus, since when is Nintendo substantially cheaper than its competitors, except when their sales are down or they are cutting costs in like with competitors? PS2 sold more, AND cost more than Nintendo.
Why cant they just do BOTH?? Innovation and massive HP? Make it cost the same as the other consoles...we already know from the 360, that cost NEVER stops adament gamers, and if the kid wants a Nintendo, he/she will get a Nintendo no matter the cost >P
I have been with Nintendo since the beginning, got all the consoles (even Virtual Boy) (Anyone remember Game and Watch? or the Nintendo Disc system used in Japan? oooold school), and their vapid selection of third party games is sickening me. Of course stellar 1st party will help this gap, but not rehashed sequels over and over.
Nostalgia may be a near unlimited bank account...but its also subject to inflation. Use it too much, it becomes worth less... |
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Bio Lizard
join:2004-04-15
Norfolk, VA | reply to Zorglub
Re: Who cares?
I have played my Gamecube way more than my PS2. And my 360? Got it for free, selling it on eBay. |
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bignate
join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX
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all the other companies these day are all about having the newest hardware and best graphics but then just recycle these tired old games with slightly better graphics.
Nintendo is where it's at as far as innovation goes. their games have always been the most fun, and that's what is really important in a game.
i have a top of the line PC and a bunch of good games like half life 2, doom 3 and other hot games but you know what i play on it the most? my NES, SNES, N64, and arcade emulators. can can get lost in those games forever. the PS1 emulator gets some good time also, and flash games on www.addictinggames.com
bottom line for me is function before form, a game has to be really fun and have a lot of replay value before you worry about making the graphics better. |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | reply to djrobx
Re: Serious PR?
Gamecube was cheap, and was about as good as that generation's other consoles. Why are they making the Revolution so weak? |
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AuraReturn
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join:2003-08-18
San Francisco, CA
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said by djrobx : quote:
Finally, playing games with high definition graphics requires a system with loads of RAM and costly high-end graphics chips, both of which make it prohibitively expensive for most consumers.
Translation: The revolution will have a small amount of RAM and a mediocre graphics chip. And I'm disgusted by their comments about high costs of developing high definition games. Game makers have been designing multi-resolution PC games for decades. When everything is 3D-rendered, scaling is not a big issue. -- Rob PC is different. On a console, there is a standard resolution that you MUST follow if you wish to compete with other console games. You don't create a game that is 480P and upscale it to 720P. It won't look as nice and your product won't be as competitive.
Take the DS for example. There are probably twice as many games released on the DS than on the PSP. And the software lineup for the DS is much better than the PSP's. With the DS, developers don't have to worry about the budget or whatever because it doesn't take a lot of money to innovate.
Most Xbox 360 games cost $60. Smaller developers are disappearing because they just don't have the money to compete with EA or UBI or other giant developers/publishers. And we all know that small developers innovate more than giant developers. Monopolies such as EA play it safe. EA's upcoming lineup is 98% sequels. Would you like a gaming industry like that? Would you? Do you want to play the same games over and over again with better graphics, sound, and little bit of new gameplay?
New and innovative games are rare in this generation(PS2, Xbox, GCN). Imagine the next generation. Companies don't have the financial security to innovate. You'll just get your same Madden every year.
It's really sad that the gaming industry is moving toward that fate. If Nintendo is out, I think the industry would collapse. |
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benjaminpear
join:2004-02-27
Oakland, CA
| MarioKart DS is amazing!
Nintendo has set the bar very high with MarioKart DS! I encourage everyone to borrow a friends copy and see just how fun this is. Kart over WiFi is amazingly easy, fun, and there are no loading times and very few if any networking issues. All it takes is an open WiFi node, and you can get online and play with four players with minimal hassle.
I don't know about you, but configuring networks and buying $50-60 enet/wifi adaptors or running additional enet cabling to my xbox/360 simply isn't a fun preliminary to playing a game.
Nintendo has made internet gaming dead simple and the other consoles are going to have their work cut out to match this simplicity.
I'm going to buy my girlfriend a DS for Christmas as this is just too cool! |
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GilbertMark
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join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ | hmm
3D0 is still number one! |
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