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Comments on news posted 2005-12-15 13:06:03: We've been discussing "a la carte" cable programming for years, with the understanding it meant being able to pick only the channels you wanted to watch - in order to save money on your cable bill. ..

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YeaButIwould

@208.17.x.x

FCC

The FCC also said it would not approve the sale of Adelphia to Comcast/TimeWarner unless they put an effot to start "cleaning" up violence and sex on CABLE TV! A Pay service remind you!

What right do they have to do this to a PAY service?

sweepy4

join:2003-12-12
Apex, NC

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Naturally

They are looking to appease the Religious Right under the guise of ala carte.....FCC must have got a call from W at the White House........"take care of my peeps" he said. Since I bungled the war I need some redemption........


fundamentals
The Basics
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Corruption

This FCC administration has to be one of the most corrupt government entities i have ever seen. Every ruling and decision they make seems to be as anti-competitive, anti-consumer as they can make it. The worst part is that, since companies like Time-Warner own the content as well as the infrastructure, Joe average will never hear about any of this.
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YeaButIWould

@208.17.x.x

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reply to sweepy4

Re: Naturally

Exactly. This is more about the FCC appeasing the Parent council and those 'extremists' aka : holier-than-thou Christians who think they know what is good for everyone. Where do these people get off? It is PAY SERVICE. if you don't like it, CANCEL!

P.S.

I think this is just the beginning, the first step because now some senator/congressman/con wants to regulate Satellite Radio too, from what I hear.

Now, I don't listen to Howard Stern, but I would defend him. And now they want to chase him over to Sirius to regulate him there too. Dont they have anything better to do?


cdru
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You know you're not going in the right direction..

...when you give the PTC what they want ("family" tv) and you still piss them off.


hobgoblin
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reply to YeaButIwould

Re: FCC

said by YeaButIwould :

The FCC also said it would not approve the sale of Adelphia to Comcast/TimeWarner unless they put an effot to start "cleaning" up violence and sex on CABLE TV! A Pay service remind you!

What right do they have to do this to a PAY service?
Link?

Hob
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Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
reply to YeaButIwould
That's nothing new for the FCC.

Back in the 90s they wouldn't approve the purchase of radio stations by Infinity Broadcasting or approve license renewals for existing stations until they paid the fines for Howard Stern broadcasts.

CEO Mel Karmazin wanted to fight the indecency charges in court but decided to pay up once they began extorting him with his licenses.


FFH5
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a la carte never coming from the FCC

The FCC is never going to force a la carte on cable or telco TV providers. If that is to happen, it would have to come in a law passed by Congress and signed by the President. And even then I suspect the cable and telco industries would get the law declared unconstitutional as an interference in the rights of private corporations to set prices as they see fit.
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Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
reply to Zoder

Re: FCC

Here's a link to what the OP mentioned. »www.latimes.com/business/custom/···ss-enter

IanR

join:2001-03-22
Fort Mill, SC

We are in an interim period

We are in an interim period for the Satellite companies as they have been slow to upgrade their video images to a decent standard and add HD content. Once they get this online properly and the hardware becomes reasoably available at decent prices then we will see competition hold down consumer prices and see decent offerings. Right now the "industry" can dress up these changes and claw more revenues. That won't last when we get real competition between IPTV and Cable and Satellite.
Well thats' my sincere feeling and part hope.


GilbertMark
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Ack.

Well Comcast is about to lose an expanded basic customer with these rate hikes. With the iTunes store carrying Battlestar Galactica the day after it airs goes my only reason for having expanded basic cable: to get the SciFi channel. Comcast must hate NBC now. Buh bye dinosaur.

I'd love to have a la carte. I get 3 PBS stations, at least 4 shopping channels, a gaggle of Spanish language channels and Chinese language channel, too many CSPANs and too many sports channels that I don't want. Stop telling me programming costs are going up. I don't care. Do we really need a golf channel? Why not a paint drying channel too? Give me only what I want and have some kind of flat rate per channel selected instead of charging me for all the superfluous programming.
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jsimmons
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reply to FFH5

Re: a la carte never coming from the FCC

I can't wait for the day I go to the grocery store and try to buy a loaf of bread... only to find I have to also buy milk, a dozen eggs, and a pound of bacon to get it (I'm sorry sir, bread is only sold as part of the "breakfast" bundle). Cable co's say they do this to save the consumer money. Maybe so... but that doesn't make it right. They can sell bundled packages all they want, but they should still offer ala carte (like the phone companies do for phone service).
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G_Poobah

join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY

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reply to FFH5
As usual, your script has no bearing on reality. You should call your pimps over at adelphia and ask them to send you an updated script so you can astroturf better, all these lame old arguments get no mileage anymore. You've got to earn the kickback money somehow.

Show me where it's 'unconstitutional' for the government to interfere with the rights of a private corporation to set prices? They do it ALL the time. The do it right now to my electric bill! They do it to my gas bill! They do it to my telephone bill! ANY time there is a monopoly/duopoly situation, the government has a right, nay, an OBLIGATION to step in and ensure the customer benefits. The FCC was created to SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD. The FCC as it exists today is a bastardized mouthpiece for the corporate shills.
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Angrychair

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Doesn't sound like such a great deal to me.

My "a la carte" is dumping cable tv all together. I did it years ago. I'd like to watch some things, but as long as I can't just get the channels I want at a reasonable price (lower than what I was paying before, since I'd have less channels), I don't see any reason to pick cable tv back up.

BrotherJPW0

join:2003-11-27
Glen Ellyn, IL

WHAA? MENS PACKAGE

All I watch is sports and movies.

I want a sports package and movie package.
I want the "MENS" package.

ESPN
ESPN2
NFL Network
SPEED
TNT
USA
TBS
WGN
ABC
CBS
NBC
FOX
HBO Networks
Showtime Networks
Comcast Sports Net Chicago

I would pay $40 to $45 for this.
I do not want shopping channels, music channels, CSPAN NETWORKS, GameSHOWs, Nickforkids, Disney channels, and BET

averagedude

join:2002-01-30
San Diego, CA
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reply to GilbertMark

Re: Ack.

Forget packages with pre-set channels
I was thinking of something like:
Choose your own (mix and match) channels/video/music
first 10 channels @ X$$
first 20 channels @ Y$$
first 30 channels @ Z$$...

With a discount the more channels you get.
My family really only watches 10 or less channels.
I don't get why I have to pay for 30 to watch 10?

jimness000

join:2005-03-28
West Chicago, IL

Conspiracy Theory

Come on, Karl, the idea that the FCC gets together in a smokey back room with the cable companies and finds ways to get prices up is silly.

Yes, full ala carte would probably decrease prices, but there would be a bunch of cable networks going out of business if people had to explicitly choose them. I know I only consciously watch about 10 of my Comcast Digital channels. I would not choose the rest from a list and without subscribers they won't exist.

FCC is sensitive to losing those channels and is trying to find a middle ground. I'd be happy with more tiers, and fewer "basic" and "extended basic" channels, as a compromise.

And, if that keeps the Christian Right's fingers off my cable box, better yet.


Scilicet
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reply to sweepy4

Re: Naturally

You've got to be kidding! The non-religious right likes to claim their 1st amendment rights for their special issues, so why can't another group have their rights presented as well? I think that it is just the term religious, which you apparently disagree with, is the real problem here.


pnh102
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Why wait for the FCC?

Anyone who waits for the government to solve his/her problems will always be disappointed. If you hate how your cable company has hiked rates, then you should cheerfully respond by cancelling their service.
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r8drfan4ever

join:2003-01-13
York, PA
reply to sweepy4

Re: Naturally

So anyone who opposes violence and sex on TV is part of the religious right? That's a gross generalization.


Scilicet
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And I agree!


ButtButtNoNo

@208.17.x.x

God is in my TV

Alacarte won't work. There would never be any new channels. If you subscribe to only a few channels, how will a new channel get off the ground? Also, what would you pay for a single channel? What channel should cost more than another? Or would they all be the same price?

Cable isn't that bad IMO, my bill is roughly 140 a month. So thats like what, 4.66 a day??? Not bad, I pay more in tolls going to work a day.

But, this is just my opinion.

Joe123456789

join:2003-11-24
Des Plaines, IL
reply to BrotherJPW0

Re: WHAA? MENS PACKAGE

said by BrotherJPW0:

All I watch is sports and movies.

I want a sports package and movie package.
I want the "MENS" package.

WGN
ABC
CBS
NBC
FOX
Are free over air where you live


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
reply to jimness000

Re: Conspiracy Theory

quote:
the idea that the FCC gets together in a smokey back room with the cable companies and finds ways to get prices up is silly
That is silly, considering it's done in broad daylight via lobbyists.


LookNow

@208.17.x.x
reply to Scilicet

Re: Naturally

Look, I don't want to get into a pissing match. I do what I like, and whats good for me. I mind my buisness. I don't moan and preach about what someone should do/listen to/watch. Do you?

Do you think that pay TV should be censored? I don't. I just wouldnt watch it. I'm not left or right. The majority of both are full of it. I don't agree with a group of anyone telling me "You shouldn't be able to see/hear that because it's obscene."

sweepy4

join:2003-12-12
Apex, NC

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reply to jimness000

Re: Conspiracy Theory

Who Cares is some of the stations go out of business. This is America the dog eat dog world of competition. If you do not have the content the people want they should go out of business. Why should I subsidise the BET network and keep them alive if I never watch it?

BTW: I am not a racist, that was just an example...I do not watch sports either


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
quote:
Who Cares is some of the stations go out of business.
My thoughts too. And so? We'll soon have billions of channels (many amateur) being streamed via broadband IPTV services from all number of providers all over the world, and I'm concerned that the home mopping channel can't survive on cable under this system?

Sometimes to make an omelet......

BarneyBadAss
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reply to jimness000
Jimness000,

Your right... the notion that the FCC gets together in a smokey back room is silly....

Nevertheless, it's very clear to everyone, the FCC doesn't understand "PLAIN ENGLISH."

I suppose they think when they go to a local restaurant and order "ala carte", it means whatever they order comes with "FRIES" too!

BrotherJPW0

join:2003-11-27
Glen Ellyn, IL

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reply to Joe123456789

Re: WHAA? MENS PACKAGE

I will just go to HOOTERS instead. To watch sports and put up an off air antenna for home. The movie theater is better anyways.

TehLiberal

join:2005-06-07
Morgantown, WV

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reply to Scilicet

Re: Naturally

I don't see how it is legal for anyone to express their opinion by silencing everyone else's. That's exactly what 'the right' is doing. You know, religious freedom means freedom FROM your religion, too. If you're so worried about your family being affected by violence, etc. on TV, then why not raise your kids to know right from wrong? It shouldn't be the rest of the nation's burden to make sure your kids never see anything bad in their lives so your faulty parenting doesn't show.
I don't care for the trash on TV, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to push my likes and dis-likes upon everyone else.