Anonymous
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IA | What?
Dramatic decreases in prices?
Where? |
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Hipjones
join:2004-05-14
Smithfield, VA | Deployment?
Deployment is at a standstill exceptfor new housing projects in the city.Give it to everyone and then we will talk!! |
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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|  FCC Dereg efforts are succeeding
The FCC has set up a deregulatory environment that has seen large scale innovation in the marketplace. It would be ashamed if this drive to innovation would be curtailed by any Congressional action to re-regulate the communications field. Regulation only leads to stagnation and higher costs as companies spend huge amounts of money dealing with and buying off bureaucrats and politicians.
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rbrugman
join:2002-09-22
Marquette, MI | !!!
I think Martin was smoking crack or something....that or the telcos and cable companies cut him a deal. If the article would have read "dramatic increases in prices, sub-par speeds and halting deployment" he would have been a little closer. |
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bmn
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Re: FCC Dereg efforts are succeeding
said by TKJunkMail  :Regulation only leads to stagnation and higher costs as companies spend huge amounts of money dealing with and buying off bureaucrats and politicians. They "spend huge amounts of money dealing with and buying off bureaucrats and politicians" regardless of whether there is regulation or not. Deregulation will never solve that problem. As well, deregulation creates new problems itself.
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yzerman
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join:2001-12-04
Grand Rapids, MI | reply to Anonymous
Re: What?
I don't think he will ever get it. |
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wilbilt
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join:2004-01-11
Oroville, CA
| reply to Hipjones
Re: Deployment?
Quote-" I think we're going to see quite dramatic changes, but what's critical for all of those changes is increasing connections, increasing connection speeds and making sure it's ubiquitously and affordably done for everyone in the country."
Yeah, right.
Somebody wake me up when that happens...
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to Anonymous
Re: What?
said by Anonymous :Dramatic decreases in prices? Where? How about Verizon Fios:
Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $34.95 - $39.95
Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps $44.95 - $49.95
BellSouth's Ultra tier (1.5mb/256k) for $32.95/month when back in 1998 when it was initially rolled out at $69.99/month.
SBC Yahoo "DSL Express" for $16.99/month
Just a few examples.... |
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JonR800
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join:2003-08-06
Farmington, MI | Ahh.. so by HERE you really mean.. NOT HERE.
SBC doesn't count, I'd be tied to phone service that I wouldn't use for another $20-$25/month. |
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CyberTrip
join:2004-11-22
Ridgecrest, CA
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said by Cod :said by Anonymous :Dramatic decreases in prices? Where? How about Verizon Fios: Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $34.95 - $39.95 Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps $44.95 - $49.95 BellSouth's Ultra tier (1.5mb/256k) for $32.95/month when back in 1998 when it was initially rolled out at $69.99/month. SBC Yahoo "DSL Express" for $16.99/month Just a few examples.... What about cable internet? Prices aren't budging on that. Prices from what I've seen still average between $39.95 - $59.95 not counting multi-package discounts. |
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JonR800
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join:2003-08-06
Farmington, MI | reply to Cod
One more thing. "back in 1998", which is where speed packages like 1.5/256 should stay. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| Competition?
What competition?
I am fortunate enough to live close enough to the inner part of a rather large township where SBC has deployed DSL probably due to the fact that there are generous helpings of rich neighborhoods in the area. "Competing" with SBC is the local cable company which I no longer see as competition.
The local cable company has upped everyone's 3Mb/s tier to 5Mb/s (for a similar price to to SBC's 3Mb/s tier), and also converted their 5Mb/s tier to a 10Mb/s tier for the same price as SBC's 6Mb/s tier. Unfortunately, Im stuck in a year contract with SBC (another one of their 'non-competing' strategies).
My uncle, who lives about 5 miles from my abode, only has cable available to him. He is 'just' out of range of the CO and I have not seen any RTs out his way. Yet heading the other direction there are a few new housing developements being built out that way and I see SBC trucks and RTs everywhere.
I will consider it competition when at least 98% of america has a choice of either, contracts are not involved, and the speeds offered are the same/very similar.
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
1 edit | reply to JonR800
Re: What?
said by JonR800 :One more thing. "back in 1998", which is where speed packages like 1.5/256 should stay. Your way off base here and are comparing apples and oranges.
said by Anonymous :Dramatic decreases in prices? Where? That was the initial question. I gave an answer in the example of 3 products that have decreased in price or are cheaper then would have been 5 years ago.
Argue all you want about speed packages, etc. Were talking about price decreases. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to JonR800
said by JonR800 :SBC doesn't count, I'd be tied to phone service that I wouldn't use for another $20-$25/month. We weren't discussing telephone service. We're talking about broadband price decreases which have steadily declined in the last 5-6 years, atleast in the Telco/DSL world. And I would attribute that decline directly to cable company competition. |
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tatbh
| What competition?
Talk about the black hole! There are many backwater towns in this country without so much as a DSL line, was that the kind of 2 pipe coast to coast competition he was talking about, or only metropolitan cities, some of which are barely getting dsl, and small, antiquated fiber nodes just rather recently (2-3 years).
What about next generation GPON fiber to the home!! Where the hell is it? Why hasn't it arrived YESTER_FRIGGEN_DAY!!!
Greed, foot dragging, and other nonsense,
We should have 100/100mbit coast to coast already, while countries like S. Korea laugh at our 768kbit dsl lines.
Oooh, 768kbit faxmodems V.Stupid modulation
There will be a generation cycle (10-20 years) before broadband really gets going again, by that time the 40yr olds generation who was the key demographic in the '90s will just about be heading for the old age home. The sense of urgency to build things in this country has stopped, we'll have to outsource it to other contries, and import it back in, pre-fabricated fiber strung on telephone poles all ready to stomp into the ground, and then hire undocumented workers to come and install it. Si' fiber node go here.. |
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Obliteration
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join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
| Who exactly makes the broadband laws?
I can't remember who is in charge of that but even the damn FCC understands that more competition equals better service and prices. If the FCC can understand that then why the hell ISN'T there more competition?
I got 1 choice.... Comcast and Comcast. I wonder who I will buy service from for my HSI. |
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dg2
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join:2004-01-22
Lowell, AR
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Re: Competition?
Good point.
Two pipes? Sorry. Only one broadband pipe is available in our neighborhood. We're 18,000 to 28,000 feet from the CO (I guess the wire length changes with temperature  ). RTs? Yes, we have one. No, DSL is not available from it. Nor can we have our phone circuit switched to it. I guess it's for "other people."
I agree with you - "competition" doesn't exist in many parts of the country. |
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batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
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join:2003-01-25
| PRESS
Why is it impossible to get a reporter that can actually ask the "right" questions to conduct one of these interviews? Someone actually versed in the damn subject to start with, not just some newb that believes all the BS the Bells and Cable cos throw their way.
Someone that knows enough to, say, stop Martin when he starts talking about BPL like it's actually a viable solution.
Someone that stops Martin when he spins "a la carte" into family safe programming.
Someone that will ask Martin why the hell he doesn't stand up and tell the sponsors of these obviously ridiculous pro-cable/pro telco bills to take a flying leap?
It's bad enough to have stupid politicians, but just as bad to have press that won't call these tools out.
If you're going to take the time to investigate something for a story, actually do some investigation.
End of rant....
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to Anonymous
Re: What?
said by Anonymous :Dramatic decreases in prices? Where? Agreed. WTF? Decrease in price? Optimum Online is still $49.95/mo for me though I have to say they did upgrade my speeds recently to 15/2 from 10/1. Kind of like the cellphone companies; they will keep throwing in more minutes but they don't reduce the price. I can only talk so much or download so much.
Personally I would be willing to take 5/1 or 3/512K for $29.95/mo. I am hard pressed to use the extra speeds I am getting too many servers out there that do not have uploads capable of feeding a 15Mbit download.
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