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| ATT to take Bellsouth?
Things were better b4 1984,it took 1/4 the time to get your phone fixed-so who knows as long as it is not done to rape the pension plan money it would work for me |
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pnh102
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| Fire The Regulators
Regulators who were obviously born after 1983 and who also probably haven't heard of companies like Standard Oil and Carnegie Steel have allowed way too many mergers over the past 15-20 years. This consolidation has led to reduced choices for consumers and ultimately higher prices for things like energy, telegraph service and cable TV. These mergers have also led to significant job cuts for people whose positions were duplicated in the merging companies. It would be nice if the government (at any level) would stop just approving any old merger and actually think things through first.
Allowing Ma Bell to come back together in any way, shape or form is an awful idea.
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batageek
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join:2003-01-25 | reply to idjk
Re: ATT to take Bellsouth?
while we're at it, let's ban alcohol and women's voting rights again too...
geez...
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Rob
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Kendall, FL | Would FCC Allow it?
Even if AT&T offered, would the FCC allow this? Why are we going backwards instead of forward? |
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rileyjam514
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Kearny, NJ
| Humpty Dumpty back together again?
Come on. Tell me no one saw this coming and I'll tell all of you about this wonderful bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn.
Why are we simply blaming the FCC here anyway? Are we forgetting the SEC or the US Attorney-General? My point is, it isn't just one government agency that's blind to the fact$ - it's most of them, and they've been that way for many years so blaming Bush wouldn't be the first thing I would do.
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vincom1
join:2005-02-01
Wayne, NJ
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Re: Would FCC Allow it?
said by Rob :Even if AT&T offered, would the FCC allow this? Why are we going backwards instead of forward? The break up of the Bell System it sel;f was a step in the wrong direction, AT&T buying Bell South would be a good thing.
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packetscan
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Re: Fire The Regulators
I agree with you Pnh102.
also
The FCC chief should be canned for incompetence. Just like Mr. (i don't know WTF is going on{Katrina disaster}) Brown.
These Mergers are only limiting the Products that can reach customers. Now that SBC and AT&T have merged were is the competition bringing down the price?
Sprint and Nextel have Merged. Where is the competition there? My cell/digital choices have been halved because of these mergers and i don't see a price cut (competition).
It's Time to Look into Corruption @ the FCC.. As it seems that there is already a Federal Probe into Criminal activities by congress/Senate/lobbyists(only one lobbyist so far, from the new article i heard last even on the 11 oclock news).
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Rob
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Re: Would FCC Allow it?
said by vincom1 :said by Rob :Even if AT&T offered, would the FCC allow this? Why are we going backwards instead of forward? The break up of the Bell System it sel;f was a step in the wrong direction, AT&T buying Bell South would be a good thing. -Vincent How would it be a good thing?
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packetscan
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| reply to Rob
we already have gone backwards when the SBC and AT&T merger was approved.
And personally SERVICE NOW SUCKS.
I've been trying to reach my dedicated Sales rep since Monday and Still haven't heard a peep from him or his "account team" What a JOKE!
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mwmcclure1
join:2005-02-15
Greer, SC
| reply to rileyjam514
Re: Humpty Dumpty back together again?
Let us get something straight. AT&T and SBC didn't merge. SBC bought AT&T and then assumed the better known name of AT&T. What was left of AT&T is now a subsidiary of a regional phone company. That entity is a whithering vine.
Could SBC buy BellSouth? They have the means and they understand what being a local telco is about. They know that making money is not about selling long distance minutes.
Would it be a good thing? Hard to tell. But even though BellSouth is not hitting on all cylinders at the moment, they generate a huge amount of cash and have plenty in the bank. Someone would have to find the business case (shareholder value) for the merger. I'm not sure I see it at the moment. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
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Re: ATT to take Bellsouth?
said by idjk :
Things were better b4 1984,it took 1/4 the time to get your phone fixed
Yes and no. I was in college in the early 1980's and used to get phone service every school year. Before 1984, I walked over to the local AT&T PhoneCenter Store, filled out some paperwork, got a phone and phonebook. Next day I had service activated. At the end of the year I turned the phone back in, paid my final bill and all was done. After the breakup, the store closed, I had to take a car ride several miles to the nearest telco office. I had to buy my own phone and wait until I could get a new directory. Service came on at the normal 24 hours but it was a bigger PITA to get service.
OTOH, before the breakup, doing your own wiring was generally prohibited by the telcos. Connecting more phones than you were renting was a violation (my folks used to rent two phones but we had a third one in another room that we always had to hide if the phone company came around).
Still considering all the advantages that have happened since the breakup, despite the few conveniences of the old Ma Bell, I would not want to go back.
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
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Re: Fire The Regulators
Just out of curiosity, (using your words) how can a "Regulator" that was born after 1983 allow too many mergers in the past 15-20 years?
Being that 1983 was only 22 years ago, that would mean these "regulators" of yours begin "regulating" when they were at most between the ages of 2 and 7. |
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Re: Humpty Dumpty back together again?
said by rileyjam514 :Come on. Tell me no one saw this coming and I'll tell all of you about this wonderful bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn. Of which NYC is getting to know once again.:D 
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Re: Would FCC Allow it?
Lets state the obvious first.
There is no real competition you can not have sbc or verizon at your home. Just no names over the same line and they pay the telco for you.
Now why is it a good thing ? Real simple cut the fat from the companies. Sink the ships of the slackers make the company more profitable so they can invest in the future of our country.
At this point, there is competition on the phone service sector , wireless , voip , even satellite links if one is so inclined. While there may only be a handful you still have all those options.
The world is no long just wired. We are wireless and untethered from specific services.
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BosstonesOwn
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Give them a chance to get the system put back together.
Also you can believe it or not get another provider ! and use it as a reason to break your contracts and ties with them.
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| reply to vincom1
I would only agree that it would be a good thing if AT&T was allowed to buy every telecom system and every cable system and then they were greatly regulated by the government and were reduced to nothing more then a network maintainer with no external customers.
This would go well with my desire to have 1 natiion wide network that is managed by one or 2 companies with oversight from the government that only supplies, upgrades, and maintains the network. All their customers are service providers that serve the customers and lease their network to do so.
If it is anything besides that, then this is a bad thing. |
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pnh102
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| reply to Skippy25
Re: Fire The Regulators
said by Skippy25 :Being that 1983 was only 22 years ago, that would mean these "regulators" of yours begin "regulating" when they were at most between the ages of 2 and 7. It was sarcasm. While most regulators were probably born before 1983, they sure as hell are ignorant of events which took place with respect to Ma Bell prior to 1983.
And as for oil company mergers that went on in the late 1990s and early 2000s, my first thought was "haven't any of these idiots learned the lessons of Standard Oil" and how bad it is for the economy to have too few suppliers of something like energy?
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King P
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Re: ATT to take Bellsouth?
LOL!
We should also allow all radio stations to be controlled by one or two big conglomerates, that have shell companies underneath them, so that they appear to be controlled by another entity and not the parent corporation...oh wait we already do. Damn FCC Telecom act of 1996.
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pnh102
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| reply to Rob
Re: Would FCC Allow it?
said by Rob :Even if AT&T offered, would the FCC allow this? Why are we going backwards instead of forward? The FCC did not break up Ma Bell. That was done by a court order.
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flankspeed8
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I agree that AT&T buying Bell South would not be a bad thing. Even if these 2 join, there will still be so much competition especially at the consumer level. Now days, you can get your phone from the cable company and cell phone providers as well as VOIP. You can get TV from satellite and in some places, the phone company. Do you like innovations like FTTP? I guarantee if BS doesn't merge, you won't see it. FTTP requires a lot of funding that can only be repayed with large investments and return on those investments. Look at Verizon which has an $84 billion market cap and $72 billion a year in revenues. Wall Street is beating the stock up over fears how much this investment in new technology will cost. There is no way small companies can go it alone anymore. |
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