TKJunkMail
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| My vote is for Microsoft - a US company
I have a bias here. I want a US company to dominate this new market. I hope Siemens is too late and too little and falls short. Go Microsoft!!
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Ronnie1055
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Carrollton, TX | Just so it works...
I will agree that it would be nice to have success with a US company... I am 100% behind that... but I also want a solution that works. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Solution that works
It's funny to see when people from our most capitalistic country prefer nationalism over free competition... oh sweet irony... 
My vote goes for the best overall solution - a solution that works. |
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ajschmitt
join:2005-11-30 | Failure is not an option
Building a business strategy that counts on someone elses lack of execution is not a good idea.
Sounds like marketing guys at Siemens trying to find a way to save their jobs. |
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Matt
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| said by ajschmitt  :Building a business strategy that counts on someone elses lack of execution is not a good idea. Sounds like marketing guys at Siemens trying to find a way to save their jobs. I was thinking the exact same thing.
"Instead of trying to innovate and build a better solution, our business model entails hoping their product is worse than ours."
What a business model. |
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to ajschmitt
hey it has worked for Linux hasn't it...?
oh wait...maybe not.
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en102
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Re: Just so it works...
I tend to agree with your statement...
which ever is the best overall for 'us'.
I.e. from and end user standpoint
- best picture and sound quality
- best amount of features available
- most solid standard (I personally don't care for WMV, and would prefer a non-proprietary technology)
- lowest over all cost (not bait and switch)
Personally on that note, I'd prefer a technology based locally as well (and yes, I'd consider Canada local ) |
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | No Hope for IPTV via Telcos
Just not enough bandwidth. They can't provision service to a large segment of their market for internet access, let alone the ten megabits Microsoft's IPTV needs. |
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avd706
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join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ | whats so special?
I don't understand, what is so special about the Microsoft product? Sounds like IPTV can be acomplished using existing standards and/or open source. |
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wlan907
join:2005-02-27
Brooklyn, NY | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: My vote is for Microsoft - a US company
Siemens and Microsoft are both public companies, so couldn't either or both really be owned by the Saudis or whoever, depending on which nationals own the most shares? |
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BosstonesOwn
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| Yes but the most workers for MS are actually in the US. So its more like we want our company who employs our people to be the solution for our needs.
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DaSneaky1D
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| said by BosstonesOwn :Yes but the most workers for MS are actually in the US. So its more like we want our company who employs our people to be the solution for our needs. So, if it doesn't work out, you can blame "our company who employs our people"?
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| reply to avd706
Re: whats so special?
MS offers some of the best compression software for muxing and demuxing video. Especially for HD content which many want.
MS has thrown money hand over fist at this to get a foot hold here and I think thier dominance will not falter. They don't use the WMV codecs but a standard based on it.
Take a look on their hd codec pages. its a solid contender. And the reason using standards and or open source is not viable is because some one has to be there to be blamed.
Sorry but that is the reason. If some thing goes wrong with open source do you blame Ted from cubicle 4 on the 3rd floor? No you blame Joe from Indonesia who prolly doesn't have a cubicle and you can't fire so he has no motivation to work harder on it.
Plus most open source is gpled. Ask dishnetwork how thier linux receiver division is going. They had to modify all the encryption code which ended up costing them more then thier previous firmware has cost them in the past. And they used linux as the core.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: My vote is for Microsoft - a US company
said by BosstonesOwn :Yes but the most workers for MS are actually in the US.
Who told you this? Don't believe everything for strangers... Check out this: » www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres···nPR.mspx quote:
So its more like we want our company who employs our people to be the solution for our needs.
Are you living in India or England or Ireland or Central Europe, perhaps in China? 
Because that's where most of the folks are elocated, I think (MS and mfrs like Xbox at Flextronics etc).
FYI Asia Lab (located in Beijing, Communist China) is resposible for video processing hardware IP research: »research.microsoft.com/cdp/ |
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Chosen1
join:2001-08-05
Orange Park, FL | reply to clickie
Re: No Hope for IPTV via Telcos
Hell, I can't get Bellsouth to upgrade me from 3meg to 6meg. How are they gonna give me the needed bandwidth for IPTV?
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griff1013
join:2002-01-10
Virginia Beach, VA
| Hope it works
MSFT has a very long history of over promising and under delivering. Large scale rollouts have been delayed again and again in the smaller European carriers who were early adopters to the technology. Clearly not ready for prime time. MSFT has thrown a whole lot of money and has little to show for it. It is how the money was spent, not the total amount. Until I see Verizon running it out to 5 million homes (in pure IP - not the legacy/hybrid system they are using now), call me a skeptic. MSFT is one size fits all - Windows on any platform even though it might not be the best operating system. Do you really need the Windows core to run a set-top box? No. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: whats so special?
said by BosstonesOwn :MS offers some of the best compression software for muxing and demuxing video. Especially for HD content which many want. MS has thrown money hand over fist at this to get a foot hold here and I think thier dominance will not falter. They don't use the WMV codecs but a standard based on it. Take a look on their hd codec pages. its a solid contender. And the reason using standards and or open source is not viable is because some one has to be there to be blamed. Sorry but that is the reason. If some thing goes wrong with open source do you blame Ted from cubicle 4 on the 3rd floor? No you blame Joe from Indonesia who prolly doesn't have a cubicle and you can't fire so he has no motivation to work harder on it. Plus most open source is gpled. Ask dishnetwork how thier linux receiver division is going. They had to modify all the encryption code which ended up costing them more then thier previous firmware has cost them in the past. And they used linux as the core. Speaking of codecs: Xvid became just as good as WMVHD w/ lower hw requirements and already better in SD resolution. Ah and it's FREE.
And there's x.264 coming... |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Yes and its an open standard with no one responsible. That is the point. A company will not use something when they can not hold some one or something responsible for any mistakes. That is life.
Who will secure the codecs with drm ? And if the drm is broken who pays for damages ? all sorts of corporate questions for corporate minds. People don't think enough about those questions when they think open source has the solution.
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BosstonesOwn
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Re: My vote is for Microsoft - a US company
Redmond washington houses the biggest MS offices. And they employ the most workers for MS in one place. You people read way to much into things.
MS pays to have stuff manufactured for them , they don't own those places.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| said by BosstonesOwn :Redmond washington houses the biggest MS offices. And they employ the most workers for MS in one place. You people read way to much into things. MS pays to have stuff manufactured for them , they don't own those places. Too bad it'c completely irrelevant when it comes to this question. Next time at least read the post you're answering to... 
Redmond has nothing to do with this, as I've linked the responsibilities of the Asian MS Research Lab. |
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