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Comments on news posted 2005-12-30 12:08:10: A 45 year old Tampa housewife was so frustrated with Verizon Fios installers digging in her yard, she tried to run them down with her car, according to local news reports. ..

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golfextreme

join:2003-12-03
Fort Wayne, IN

These are the type of people....

These people love to complain about any kind of work being done (even though they have every right because it's a utility easement), but then they want to b-tch when their cable, phone, water, gas,..etc. have something go wrong with it. They think because they bought the land (even though it is probably owned by the bank and the people are paying on a mortgage) they can do whatever they want even though their association covenants, deeded easements,etc.. are clearly pointed out when they buy the property.

I'm a Realtor and I get sick of people like this. If you don't like it.......move to the country and live on well and septic, have wood-burning heat and no electricity, phone or gas and you will never have to worry about utility workers.
golfextreme

join:2003-12-03
Fort Wayne, IN

These people love to complain about any work being done, but they also expect that their cable, phone, gas, electricity should magically always work without any work needing to be done. It's a utility easement and it's spelled out in the survey of your property. These people think that if they buy the property (even though the bank owns it and you're paying a mortgage), you can say to hell with the association covenants and deeded restrictions that are spelled out for you in all the papers you get when you close on the property.

I'm a Realtor and I get mighty sick of these kind of people. If you don't want to deal with it, buy several acres out in the country, live on well and septic, use a wood-burner for heat and have no electricity, phone, or gas. In other words, be amish.

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the real question is did verizon really have an easement to dig up her property..

If not she's well within her rights to stop tresspasses on her land and as stated above, allowed to use the minimun amount of force needed to remove them.. in this case, after repeated verbal attempts she felt a car was the next needed show of force.

If verizon DID have the easment, then someone, including the supervisor needed to show her and explain that what they were doing is completely leagal.
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jon2200

join:2003-04-18
Tampa, FL
They were digging in my yard yesterday... have say they were very clean... can't even tell they were there...
KyeU

join:2003-12-31
Canada
The techs probably deserved it.

treetop1000

join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY


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You'd do well to remember who we're dealing with here. These are some of the rudest and self centered people on the planet. I've been to Florida, and if they aren't trying to drive over top of you (Google that up. you'll see what I mean) they're trying to defraud you out of whatever you got that they want. And -everybody- is in on it. Florida has become the insanity state as far as I'm concerned. Yep, they could even conceivably be blamed for George W Bush.
(chads, anyone?)
Now I will say that there are a few level heads there, but it seems as if all the headcases came to Florida for the climate, and stayed.
Don't believe me? Just google up the St Pete Times or the Tampa Tribune and dig for the "unusual' stories. There are more weird stories reported there than anywhere else I've seen.
shamdawg

join:2004-10-14
La Verne, CA
your all a bunch of retards

SirChaos

join:2002-01-15
Marysville, WA
Wow....I never thought my story would make front page news.....Whoa....pretty cool!
dbozzo

join:2003-10-29
Roslindale, MA

Just another example of the few in our great country trying to ruin it for the rest of us. People tried it with cell towers, cable companies, telephone companies, radio/tv stations and now fios. Lets not forget about us hams either. We have had our fair share of whack-job neighbors complaining about us putting a 6 element beam on the roof. My advice to those of us who want actual progress: MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD AT YOUR LOCAL TOWN MEETINGS.

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i was one of the techs she tried to hit. we speak english (for the record) and were not even digging. we were working in the terminal on her neighbors property. the week prior the cops were called so they could bury the drop. She told us that she hated verizon and she was fed up with our sh*t. and that she needed to park where we were working. actually bumping one of us. thats why she got arrested. we had no shovels near us. just to clear the air for everyone!!! GO FIOS!!!
roachxp

join:2004-05-26
Milford, MA

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XknightHawkX

join:2003-02-13
Morton, IL
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Hey now that I keep reading some of this stuff about easement I got a question. I live in a big trailer court and wonder what the easement rules fall under there. We have accually street names and address' here and wonder if Verizon would be able to run the fiber through or if seeing it is a privately owned trailer court would stop them. I highly doubt we would ever see fiber in this town though. I just wondered after reading about the easement rules.
jaorgeron

join:2003-11-13
Kenner, LA

If I didnt want them in my yard working in it I would have made it as hard as hell for them to get in my yard. Its her yard. Did the verizon pay for her land. Hell I would have put dogs and plants and cars, what ever I could find just to slow them up or stop them

rec9140
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join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL

Re: I know how to keep them out.

said by jaorgeron See Profile :
If I didnt want them in my yard working in it I would have made it as hard as hell for them to get in my yard. Its her yard. Did the verizon pay for her land. Hell I would have put dogs and plants and cars, what ever I could find just to slow them up or stop them

This is work in the public utitlites easement/right of way.

Thererfore its :

1) NOT TRESPASSING
2) YOU have NO RIGHT TO DENY ACCESS
3) In many (your area may vary) areas you have:
a) NO RIGHT TO PLACE A fence
b) NO RIGHT TO PLACE any shurbbery or landscaping
c) Are REQUIRED to MAINTAIN the area safe conditions..... ie: mow it

4) May NOT BUILD ANY thing within this area.

Impeding utility workers installing or maintaing services in the row/pe is not something you Joe/Jane Homeowner has one lick of say over.

Tear up your yard...oh well. The utility is required to repair it. Basically put some grass seed or some cheap sod down, thats about it. No they are not required to sculpt your lawn. Its grass any way who cares! It grows back in time.

Just be thankful I am not the contractor as you would find out what I think of your "pretty lawns" and the meaning of tracked vehicles. You think they can do a number on asphalt and concrete, you should see it on grass, especially that expensive sod crap.

Can't we just round all these whackos up and send to California and Oregon and then WALL UP BOTH STATES and just air drop in the next bunch of wackos!
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Pittsburgh, PA

This is true in almost any build involving rights of way... I can recall... and I'm being entirely truthful, here... a sewer project in my old home town ran through a local farmer's field... fellow showed up on a bulldozer with a shotgun, blocking the path of the pipeline. Fellow must have been 90, and his 89 year old wife was at his side, with ... another shotgun.

Hehe... occupational hazard, although this one's a little over the edge. Usually, it's more of a standoff sort of thing than a raging hostility one.

By the way, the outcome, above? Sewer Authority just moved the line up the hill, and, after the farmer and his wife passed away, their land was physically unservable by the sewer system, without a pump station. The heirs wanted to subdivide, and it ended up costing them tens of thousands of dollars to get sewerage into their development. Hoist by their own petard...
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

Trespassing is still trespassing. She told them not to go on her yard, and she has that right. Sure the hole itself might have been on an easement, but odds are they kept walking across her yard. And what if the hole wasn't on the easement? Then they can't dig.

marigolds
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Saint Louis, MO

Nowhere in the article does it say that these workers were installing FIOS.
Interestingly enough, this article does not pop up anywhere on google news.
As well, that easement right is granted through the city or state, and that grantor does have the ability to recover damages for a resident.
Also, easement laws depend to a great deal on the state. In some states, the resident is granted full control of the easement under certain conditions (for example, maryland grants full control of the wet sand easement and the right to exclude access to the wetsand except for the purpose of hunting and fishing whereas Oregon grants full public access to the wetsand -and- dry sand for a wide range of purposes including recreation).
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owenhome
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Bentonville, AR

Though going at them with her car was way out of line.

Easement laws are BS.

They are supposed to return your property to the way it was after they are done doing what they need to do. But, they don't. I have had problems with the phone co and the cable co and their easement BS right-of-way crap.

They come into your yard, dig these huge holes, tear up the place, do what they need to, and leave this giant mess.

Once with our cable co, they came into my yard and dug out a 8'x5'x6' hole for some giant thing they needed to sink in my back yard. They destroyed the yard with their backhoes, ditch diggers, and shovels. They dug their hole, dropped in this great big box like a coffin, and just left it like that. The kids couldn't play out back because of fear they might fall into the "grave". All they did was put couple street cones on each side. After a couple weeks, it was still there. The never came back to fill the hole, fix the fence, fill the ditches, replace the grass, nothing. Their people were just "too busy". So finally I called them and said "I don't know exactly what this thing is, but it looks like a panel on the top is still open. You can come fix this or I am going to drop a hose in it and fill it up with water." They said "You can't do that! You'll be responsible for it's replacement!" Ok fine.

So when I got off the phone, I set the sprinkler over by the hole and let it run straight for about 6 days or so. That hole slowly filled with water. Finally, after about day 6 of lawn watering, the cable service for the entire area "died".

They sent some guys out, they worked on it some more, then left it just like it was, AGAIN. They sent a rep out to my house with a bill for something like $8,000. I told them it was my yard and if I want to water it, that's my business and he can shove that bill up, well, you know. But when they left it the second time, the open panel on the top wasn't open any longer! LOL

Anyway, after about another week, I called them up and told them a local contractor was coming out here today and he would be REMOVING that coffin looking thing and filling the hole. Within MAYBE a half our, the cable co had a crew out to fill in the hole.

They had to bring in some more dirt so they brought in a dump truck which destroyed my driveway. They busted it to %$#@!

So now, I have a mountain of dirt and mud for a back yard, a huge hole in my fence, and a destroyed driveway!!!!

I called them and called them. They had me send in a claim which they never did anything about.

Finally I called an attorney and filed suit.

About a week after they were served, my attorney called and said they wanted a chance to "make it right".

They sent out a local landscaping company who leveled and sodded the yard, another company replaced that section of fence, and yet another busted out and replaced my entire driveway. And after all that, they had to completely re-do half of my front yard because of the damage done when they replaced the drive way.

In her defence, after all of that, I just mighr try to run them over too.
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