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Comments on news posted 2006-01-05 18:28:48: Back in October, BellSouth executives ignited a firestorm by suggesting that Google and other websites (and IP services) should pay the bells for quicker access to customers. ..

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Dufus10100

@comcast.net

Why not do it with phone calls too!

Let let the companies prioritize our phone calls as well. If you call a certain number alot, we are going to charge you more to give that number priority...

You Go!
cstumpf

join:2004-02-07
Buena Park, CA

Google will just turn on their darkfiber network

Google has been buying dark fiber for over a year now.

»news.com.com/Google%20wants%20da···392.html
»hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl···from=rss

And on top of that they've been designing and building datacenters inside of cargo containers.

»slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/1···&tid=217

Verizon and ATT will find themselves both tided to the same whipping post if they keep pressing this issue. Google will bypass them almost completely. Which will result in them getting NO revenue increase like they are angling for and actually losing huge amounts of revenue as a major portion of internet traffic moves to the googlenet.

csspaa

join:2004-12-08
Belleville, MI

Re: Google will just turn on their darkfiber netwo

From my understanding of what I have read. Internet2 is a closed system for research only. That has not been patched into real the Internet. I think people will never go for Internet2, to me it looks like a Sun Micro systems network, with centralised processing. And we know how everyone loves to play with that. It would be the death of open source and if you think the NSA likes the system we have know just wait until they get Internet2. There would be no such thing a an anonymous posting, as if there is now. Like I said before I can remember when www.webcrawler.com was hot. They are not going to change the internet just for one search engine.

Far as charging people per megabyte. Have you ever heard of someone getting a water bill for 400 bucks because of there toilet was running. There is a lot of the computer out there that are infected with virus and spyware. People would get $400 bills for leaving there computer on.

PS Could you fix the Spam problem first.
sf_geekboy

join:2003-10-15
San Francisco, CA

Fixed Rate vs Pay per packet

Since 1999, the question has been hanging of how long fixed price unmetered internet access would last.

The DotCom Boom and Bust resulted in the construction of massive overcapacity at SBC, Sprint, WorldCom, and other fiber network owners. This overcapacity delayed the discussion of the underlying question... what is the right pricing model for internet connectivity? Which model will encourage networks to keep capacity aligned with demand?

We have seen unbridled concentration through mergers and acquisitions in Telco's, Major ISP's, Cable Companies, and Content Providers... resulting in high consumer costs, slow deployment, and the delay of VOIP and other content delivery via Broadband. The issues have not been technical, but are driven by the desire for profit and concentrated control. (Japan and Scandenavia have seen markedly different outcomes in the cost and ubiquity of Broadband, Cellular Coverage, and etc.). Now these firms want to increase revenue to pay off the acquisition costs.

There are no surprises here. The same phenomenon has happened in Radio, TV, Periodicals, and Newspapers. The result is homogenized content delivery coast to coast. You can have all of the 31 flavors of pre chewed and digested content you can stomach, but no substantive local coverage or reporting, no diversity of content, no innovation, no free market, no sense of community involvement, even the Emergency Broadcast System doesn't work anymore (because you can't manage it at an unmanned radio station, see ClearChannel).

First the model was applied to the traditional means of distribution (of the 4th Estate), next it will be applied to Wired & Wireless Telecommunications (whether analog or packet based), and Internet Content of all kinds. The 4th Estate will not be permitted to morph into an Internet based model. The 4th Estate is slated for termination (castration was the first step). The means of communication are to be centralized, monetized, and controlled.

A different outcome would require the exclusion of Corporations from Government. It would require removing citizenship rights from Corporations. Otherwise, we are becoming an Banana Republic, with all that implies.

We are at war with Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania. We will always be at war with Oceania... Until we are at war with someone else, with whom we have always been at war, and with whom we will always be at war.

Where is Oceania? It is in Afghanistan, Iraq, Nicaragua, Ruby Ridge, Chile, Venezuela, Mexico, Spain, Cuba, El Salvador, Kansas City, Iran, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Eqypt, Somalia, Hawaii, The Phillipines, North Korea, Moscow, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, East Berlin, Panama City, The Dominican Republic, Granada, Libya, Kosovo, and Haiti.

We are at war with Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania. We will always be at war with Oceania...

War is profitable. War concentrates power. War is good for business, and the business of America is war... Therefore your access to information, not meaningless data, but contextual information, must be curtailed... must be monetized, and thereby curtailed. It is a small price to pay to live in a "free" society. The emphasis is on payment.
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