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|  Series 3 has lots of good features
The cable card capability means it can be used with almost all cable company systems.
The SATA capability means lots of storage for HD recording.
And the multiple tuners allows high flexibility for combining OTA and cable or sat connections.
If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I think Tivo may actually have a winner here. It may be a product that can keep them from going bankrupt.:D
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said by TKJunkMail  :The cable card capability means it can be used with almost all cable company systems. The SATA capability means lots of storage for HD recording. And the multiple tuners allows high flexibility for combining OTA and cable or sat connections. If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I think Tivo may actually have a winner here. It may be a product that can keep them from going bankrupt.:D The only thing I hope is that some of these cable and satellite companies actually SELL the cards. Look at computer built Tivos like Windows XP Media Center. They have been waiting and waiting for cable or satellite cards to no avail.
Why don't the cable and satellite companies start SELLING their cards so things like this Tivo become a reality?
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1 edit | said by Nightfall :The only thing I hope is that some of these cable and satellite companies actually SELL the cards. Look at computer built Tivos like Windows XP Media Center. They have been waiting and waiting for cable or satellite cards to no avail. Why don't the cable and satellite companies start SELLING their cards so things like this Tivo become a reality? I can't speak for all cable companies, but Comcast does offer cable cards to their customers. At least they do in my area. But they are rentable - just like their STBs.
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| It's the DRM that makes or breaks it
Will it record to DVD?
Will it obey the copyright bit?
Will it record HDTV shows?
Tivo doesn't have the best record for privacy or consumer rights. Hopefully, Tivo will realize that signing a pact with the devil (directv/comcast/etc) is the same as signing a pact with microsoft, and in the end they will get steamrolled. Having said that, should Tivo make the Gen 3 'consumer friendly', they can expect to be sued out of existence ala ReplayTV. Not sure how they can win either way.
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Re: Series 3 has lots of good features
said by Nightfall :The only thing I hope is that some of these cable and satellite companies actually SELL the cards. Look at computer built Tivos like Windows XP Media Center. They have been waiting and waiting for cable or satellite cards to no avail. Why don't the cable and satellite companies start SELLING their cards so things like this Tivo become a reality? You are confused. Cable cards are not PC cards. CableCARD is a PCMCIA Type II card (like the cards you put into laptops for network or wireless access) that serves as an interface between third party tuners and the cable company.
Ask the PC tunner card manucafturers when they are goin to make a Cablecard compatable digital cable tunner card for a PC.
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Re: It's the DRM that makes or breaks it
I agree, and as we all saw here »Tivo & DRM Tivo is ready with the lockdown. |
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My siblings and I JUST purchased a Tivo Series 2 for my folks... The dual cable tuners would have come in handy since they have digital cable and the digital converter boxes make it difficult to watch one thing and record another if both programs are on digital channels. |
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Re: Series 3 has lots of good features
said by TKJunkMail :And the multiple tuners allows high flexibility for combining OTA and cable or sat connections. Where do the specs say that it has sat tuners? It has two QAM tuners, two ATSC tuners and two NTSC tuners. None of which can tune a sat signal.
If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I think Tivo may actually have a winner here. It may be a product that can keep them from going bankrupt.:D If they actually release it. It was announced and demoed at last years CES too. |
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Re: It's the DRM that makes or breaks it
Oh there is a huge upside to this. If the Tivo3 can be modded like a xbox then it will be a hit. They can put protection in it and lock it down, but if some clever person hacks it and creates some sort of modchip, then it will take off. To me the xbox is so hot because of the ability to really make it do what YOU want it to do.Tivo3 + modchip(i.e. record HD from sat/cable, real time encoder = major sales and serious profit. I would definitely buy one then. |
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Re: Series 3 has lots of good features
I'm in love.
The only question I have is will Series 2 and Series 3 units communicate with one another.
Series 1 and Series 2 do not ....
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Comcast here in Philly has CableCards available. |
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Topmounter
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Just call your CableCo and ask for a CableCard, you'll probably have to ask a couple times before you get someone that understands what it is you want.
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Re: It's the DRM that makes or breaks it
Maybe you and all the other techies but not the average joe like myself. I'm not at all interested in tinkering with my digital equipment for fear of screwing it up and my warranty in the process.
And im guessing that the vast majority of TiVo subscribers just want a box that works and is not too restrictive. |
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Re: Aww nuts...
If it's been less than 30 days you can send it back no questions asked. However, you will be waiting far longer than 30 days for this "series 3" box to appear on store shelves. It if was ready to go it would have been out there for the end-of-year-madness shopping season.
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1 edit | So what...
...TiVo execs are a bunch of spamming whores. Like Adaware...I'm NEVER going back no matter what they release. All of my series 2 units were spammed endlessly (until I cancelled anyway) and new DRM rules (wouldn't let me keep Family Guy until I delete) lame. I've had TiVos since the first Xmas they were released and back then the service was great. You bought the box, paid $10/mo for guide updates...no spam...perfection in technology.
Then they raise the monthly fee 30% and you would think with such a large increase they could go without banner ad spam, spam while FFWDing, the pulsating thumb ads and system message spam (yes I would get "official" system messages about new Sheryl Crow albums). That would all be well and good if guide updates were free, but for nearly $160 plus the cost of the hardware (plus I paid HMOx2 when they used to charge for it) you would think they could provide a spam free service. My HD DirecTiVo sees no such spam and if it ever does, it will be gone too.
Now I've seen some here claim they've never seen this spam...to them I say consider yourselves very lucky.
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Re: Series 3 has lots of good features
said by bob000001 :said by Nightfall :The only thing I hope is that some of these cable and satellite companies actually SELL the cards. Look at computer built Tivos like Windows XP Media Center. They have been waiting and waiting for cable or satellite cards to no avail. Why don't the cable and satellite companies start SELLING their cards so things like this Tivo become a reality? You are confused. Cable cards are not PC cards. CableCARD is a PCMCIA Type II card (like the cards you put into laptops for network or wireless access) that serves as an interface between third party tuners and the cable company. Ask the PC tunner card manucafturers when they are goin to make a Cablecard compatable digital cable tunner card for a PC. I was talking about both to be honest, but thanks for the clarification. 
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The only thing I hope is that some of these cable and satellite companies actually SELL the cards
I think the companies have all been required to offer them for some time now. Getting them to actually work has been an adventure for some though.
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Ask the PC tunner card manucafturers when they are goin to make a Cablecard compatable digital cable tunner card for a PC.
They're coming, but won't be usable until Windows Vista. Forget about CableCard with MythTV until hackers crack it like they did DVD.
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