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Comments on news posted 2006-01-06 17:22:42: “During the hurricanes, Google didn’t pay to have the DSL restored,” says BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher in a Wall Street Journal article (reg required) on the bells' push to charge websites and IP services for priority access. ..
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JDCinAMA
| Here is an idea for Google... Google needs to use some of the cash liquidity they have built up and BUY Bellsouth. The first order of business will be to hand out pink slips and "desk cleanout" boxes to idiot executives.
I'll sell the popcorn and beer to the crowd watching the slaughter. | |
| amungus
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| disgusting and wrong During the hurricanes, I imagine at least some of the people at Google actually cared enough to donate somehow to real relief efforts... they employ these creatures called humans I've heard...
It sounds like whoever this cracksmoker is was out spending his fat paycheck on anything but helping others.
This is an outrage, and if I were a victim of those horrible storms, I would be further angered that some phone "spokesman" (speaking for the company right?) used such a tragedy to justify his greed.
Living in the midwest, I've never heard the phone co's whine when tornadoes or too much snow takes down lines...
Of course they pay to fix their own problems. One, it's theirs to maintain. Two, their customers pay them inordinate amounts of money every month/year to 'maintain' antiquated lines that were put up how long ago exactly??????
Three, who cares who google's servers use for connection.
This is beyond bad, that guy should not have been allowed to use such statements about such a tragedy like that. Are there laws for this? Why single out one search engine company? Why not Yahoo? Why a search company to begin with? Does not streaming music/video take up AND REQUIRE more bandwidth than random searching?
I seriously doubt any amount of google traffic compares to anything else the avg. 'net user does.
x-box live, music/video (napster, rhapsody, iTunes have to pay now too????????????????), emailing (esp. the spammers who deserve to be in trouble anyway... take some of that 11 billion that Florida guy's supposed to cough up), chatting, voip (cough it up skype, hand over the dough vonage, etc./sarcasm), netflix, dslr, let's see... oh yeah, microsoft. wait, wasn't it Al Gore who invented the 'net??? I bet he'd help out... /sarcasm...
where does this guy get off even suggesting such a ludicrous and shameful thing? Talk about wrong. My folks just switched back to 'sbcatt', I may try convincing them to switch to almost anything else now. Thanks buddy, one heck of a spokesman you are. Losing more money for your employer, that's really smart.
I hope somebody out there reads this, calls up, and cancels, yells at the phone, and throws their bill out the window.
Maybe those hurricanes should've blown some sense your face instead of sweeping your brain away mr. Battcher..
This has got to be some of the dumbest news I've read all year, and it's only January. | |
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sporkme
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| Jeff Battcher - Moron? “During the hurricanes, Google didn’t pay to have the DSL restored,” said BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher. “We’re paying all that money.”
No shit, Jeff. It's your network. Take the money from your subscribers.
Now that they've finished with bashing the CLECs/DLECs it seems like this is the new nonsense we'll be hearing.
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nixen
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| Re: Jeff Battcher - Moron? said by sporkme  :“During the hurricanes, Google didn’t pay to have the DSL restored,” said BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher. “We’re paying all that money.”
No shit, Jeff. It's your network. Take the money from your subscribers. Or, from their insurance carriers...
-tom
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| oldmike
join:2005-04-14
Latonia, KY | Medical angle I think his comments were a direct result of long-term exposure to insidious radiation emanating from POTS lines... | |
| sirozha
join:2001-11-18
Kennesaw, GA
| Google should block all BellSouth IPs If Google blocks all IPs originating within the BellSouth network for just a few days, BellSouth will be left without most DSL subscribers. Almost everyone is going to defect to Cablecos. Some of them will take their phone service with them as well. BellSouth's stock is going to drop like a rock, and Google could buy it up and finally turn BellSouth into a decent company. | |
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packetscan
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| Re: Google should block all BellSouth IPs Block every company that says something stupid like this..
When customers start to fill the call centers they will be begging google for access to their services.
This has to be customer driven!
I've made the call(s) and continue to call and voice my opinion. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
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Rob
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| said by sirozha :If Google blocks all IPs originating within the BellSouth network for just a few days, BellSouth will be left without most DSL subscribers. Almost everyone is going to defect to Cablecos. Some of them will take their phone service with them as well. BellSouth's stock is going to drop like a rock, and Google could buy it up and finally turn BellSouth into a decent company. My disgust will be with Google and not with BellSouth.
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packetscan
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clubs: | Re: Google should block all BellSouth IPs I'm sorry that we disagree on that subject. | |
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| Here is what is going...... to happen. Google, Yahoo, etc will start purchasing substantial blocks of stock in various Telco's once this happens they will have a great deal to say in how these Telco do their business on the web. Google, who might have a person sitting on the board of Bellsouth or at the very least will have a big say at share holder's meetings will look at the CEO of BellSouth and tell him charge us and you are gone.
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| bigjoesmith
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Peoria, IL | Network Neutrality Jeff Battcher, jeff.battcher@bellsouth.com, might be surprised to find out how Bell South customers view the idea of Network Neutrality. | |
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maartena
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Orange, CA | 411 did not pay either.... .... to help restore the telephone lines. | |
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Rama767
join:2002-08-02
White Plains, NY
| Did anyone read the article? I'm all for net neutrality, but no one seems to be discussing the fact that the article is pointing toward's a two tiered internet. This isn't about charging Google to access customers that are on the telco's network. It's about offering priority bandwith to those copanies that want to deliver higher bandwidth applications/data to those customers. Nowhere in the article, nor in any of the others that I have read, does it state that the "best efforts" clause is being removed. People pay for high speed internet service, and they are still allowed to access whatever content they wish. The provider's burden is to try their best to keep that connection at the speed/latency advertised.
Finally, I do think they have been tossing this idea around for a while. Online gaming requires very low latency, and these providers charge the customer more for it. What's the difference here? If I want ultra high bandwidth content delivered to me, I'm not surprised they would like someone to pay for it.
PS-Wanting to charge for VOIP is ridiculas. The amount of bandwidth consumed is minimal at worst. They're just a target because they compete directly with telco's traditional revenue stream. | |
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MarkyD
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| WOW These RBOCs are freaking idiots. It's YOUR NETWORK!! YOU CHARGE YOUR CUSTOMERS FOR ACCESS TO IT! MAINTENANCE IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY!! You morons.
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27 | BellMouth They can collect from google once they give up their subsidies and usage/line tax collection!
Blam.
"That's why I lives in da north!" | |
| etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
1 edit | Bell South and the Bells should... help pay for damages inflicted by DOS and hacker attacks to Google an other corporations. After all hackers use BS lines to perpetrate the attacks. In addition all Bells should be held liable if financial information is stolen from internet users, how about that?
US corporations are out of control protected and patronized by a corrupt government. | |
| voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA
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| Text messaging My cell phone company charges me 10 cents to send a text message. I wouldn't be surprised if BellSouth starts intercepting IM messages and charging you 10 cents for each one. They could make billions a month, I'm sure. Watch your DSL bill go from $40 to $250 just like that. | |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
| it's a red herr you know what happened to set this off?
google bought some dark fiber. i bet the phone companies were waiting to buy the same fiber at a very reduced price (why they aren't jumping onto fiber at the moment). so the phone companies kept artificially suppressing the dark fiber prices and then google swept in and bought it out from under them.
they are pissed. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Everyone already pays for the internet. Right now everyone at an end point on the internet is paying to get access. People in their homes pay for their internet. People host webpages through hosting companies that pay for their large connections. And big sites host their pages on their own servers and pay for a large connection.
So currently everyone is paying money to get on the internet and in that price they are paying for their own lines maintenance and service to keep their connections up as much as possible.
Basically phone companies are trying to charge other companies' customers for internet access they have no part in providing. If I was google's internet provider, I would demand bellsouth pays me for it's customers accessing google. | |
| wiesedogg
join:2004-11-05
Arlington, VA
| Maybe Google Should Pay If BLS (or ATT or VZ) wants Google et. al. to pay for infrastructure rebuilding, then Google should do so. Of course, since that investment would make Google an owner of / investor in those rebuilt systems, Google should then be able to use that infrastructure for whatever they want. Perhaps free / ad-supported wi-fi for all Katrina-affected cities, as an alternative to BLS DSL? | |
| RideFree
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Denver, CO | Jeff Battcher I agree, Jeff Battcher is every bit as dumb as Pat Robber(tson)! | |
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fatmanskinny
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Wandering | Re: Jeff Battcher Should we start a separate thread on Pat Robertson? Discussion and debate on his extreme "Christianity" can take up terabytes of space. Wait, only 5 bytes are needed" for the word "idiot".
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Astros24
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| BS is BS BSouth hoses everyone for years by charging extra fees like "like hookup" charges, and then they expect to get money this way? They get no sympathy from me. I'm just glad I have used cell phone only for a long time now, and don't even have to deal with them anymore. | |
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Dominokat
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1 edit | Will it ever end? Verizon is bitching about bandwidth hogs, now BellSouth is bitching because "Google didn't pay to restore service?"
First of all, ANY COMPANY that uses wires to provide service to businesses and home, risk the possibility that those lines will go down at some point. Be it for a car crash, to an old wiring job, to storms. That is part of doing business and cost to repair service SHOULD be included in budgets. I live in the North East, storms take down lines all the time in the winter especially. But do the Electric Companies and Cable, and Phone companies go after third parties to pay for the damage? Hell no. If they did, it would be a PR disaster. Granted the Hurricanes have done far more damage then anyone could imagine, but to say Google should help pay for repairs? Jesus, I have an idea??? Why not tell Google they need to help pay for all the damaged homes? Thing about it, no homes, no one using the internet, thus no one using Google, thus no one using BellSouth....
I tell you, the greed for money in the nation is going to be our countries undoing in more ways then just the internet.
We're going down so you better get your life jackets. | |
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