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1 edit | Well, spammers, you see...
You guys certainly may have the right to try to get your message out on the Internet via spam, but we as end users and systems/network administrators also have the right not to listen or put up with your garbage mail if we don't want to... Especially if that mail is increasing our bottom line or the time we spend sifting through our mail box.
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MysticGogeta
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clubs: | Its right to choose also
I can choose to not accept spam messages as well as phone calls they should make this a law the do not spam list lol im on the do not call list and recieve like 99% less sales calls. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by MysticGogeta  :I can choose to not accept spam messages as well as phone calls they should make this a law the do not spam list lol im on the do not call list and recieve like 99% less sales calls. A "Do not Spam List" law would be a good idea. If it is legal for phone calls, it can also be legal for unwanted email.
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oliphant
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| Nothing with spam will be fixed...
...until you can hold those who are hiring the spammers liable. If ABC Company hires a spammer and they violate the can spam act, ABC Company should also be held liable.
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vpoko
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Its right to choose also
said by TKJunkMail :said by MysticGogeta :I can choose to not accept spam messages as well as phone calls they should make this a law the do not spam list lol im on the do not call list and recieve like 99% less sales calls. A "Do not Spam List" law would be a good idea. If it is legal for phone calls, it can also be legal for unwanted email. It's legal, but it would make the problem much, much worse. Most spammers aren't too concerned with the law and would ignore a no-spam list, or worse they would harvest it for email addresses. |
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA | reply to oliphant
Re: Nothing with spam will be fixed...
I favor a technological solution instead of a legal one. Email's open nature makes it vulnerable, that has to change. |
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Hangthembytheirballs
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| DEATH to ALL Spammers !!!
And make it a VERY painful, slow, excruciating death so that they get their due and notice is served to other Spammers what awaits them for violation of law. |
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RayW
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Re: Its right to choose also
Unfortunately, unlike the Phone list, one for the internet would be worthless. Why? Stop and think for while. What is one of the biggest differences between phone spam and internet spam?
Consider, Joe and Jane email spammer get told that the US passed a law saying no more spam to these addresses. So what do they do? Go to Mexico, or Canada, or the Bahamas, or etc. Heck, they do not even have to leave home to do that, just get an account opened. The Feds can't touch them because 1. They do not know they are US citizens, 2, What they are doing is not illegal in those jurisdictions, and 3. They are probably using zombies anyway.
The reason this does not happen with the phone? Cost to make international calls.
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Time
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join:2003-07-05 | Hmmm...
Maybe the ACLU should help them out. Hell, they've already helped out drug dealers, nazi's, and pedophiles. What's another one added to the list going to hurt? |
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bmn
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hiatus | They won't because there is no legitimate constitutional issue here... Blocking junk mail on your servers doesn't violate the First Amendment of anyone. |
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viperpa33s
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| University should be at fault as well
I blame the spammer but I also blame the university for selling people's email addresses to the spammers. People gave there email addresses in confidence, believing that there personal info would be kept private. I do consider email addresses as private info.
That's why EULA's are so important and needs to be simplified. As we seen in this case, you will get the rug pulled right out from under you. |
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ossito16
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| Wrong state
Are these guys crazy? First off you sued the national champions. Go Longhorns! Secondly, this is Texas, "Don't mess with Texas". Thirdly, who is the president of our country, where is he from, who picks supreme court judges. These guys are lucky to not be bombed,LOL. |
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MysticGogeta
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2 edits | reply to RayW
Re: Its right to choose also
They can block incomeing traffic tho
i can see your point but i can see our goverment figureing something out im just saying to reduce the spam atleast just like the do not call list |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | Look at it this way...
If you yelled really loud in public (if you was advertising something or not) is considered disturbing the peace.. |
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csnewbie
join:2001-02-12
Atlanta, GA | reply to ossito16
i have constitutional right to..
shoot those spammers filling my inbox with penis enlargements and viagra spam |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
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Re: DEATH to ALL Spammers !!!
Ol' Faithful gushes again  |
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Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to MysticGogeta
Re: Its right to choose also
the Uni is a private network, they have every right to block what they feel the need to block to maintain its stability and security.
a violation of free speach would be the cops arresting someone for having a sign in their car window saying the president is doing a terrible job. a net admin blocking spam is a net admin protecting private property just as security guard does at the entry to the parking garage.
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cao1964
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Danville, PA
| reply to Time
Re: Hmmm...
said by Time :Maybe the ACLU should help them out. Hell, they've already helped out drug dealers, nazi's, and pedophiles. What's another one added to the list going to hurt? And they would help you out also when no one else would care, ACLU is not as bad as you think but they do take cases that go agains the norm that we are condition to believe is the only norm. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Universities have the right to block anything
If a university has the right to block out going services, then damn well better have the right to block incoming traffic. Many universities will block things like online games and p2p traffic. If they want to selectively block email sources, it's their right, because they own the network. Now don't get me wrong, if the university gives you a routable ip, it's bullshit for them to filter anything. |
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oliphant
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Corona, CA
| reply to vpoko
Re: Nothing with spam will be fixed...
There is no technological solution. For every solution there is a work around. The only thing that can stop them is costing them money. You may not be able to get the spammers and they are good at hiding, but those hiring them and hocking their wares are for the most part easy to find...and ultimately fine.
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