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Comments on news posted 2006-01-18 12:30:44: A three percent phone-line tax, originally intended to pay for the Spanish American War back in 1898, is still being collected by most wireless providers as the "federal excise tax". A telco funded astroturf group dubbed "MyWireless. ..

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JeedaiKnight
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Once a tax...

always a tax. Give the mouse a cookie...and he'll want a glass of milk. :p
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
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Your taxes and extra surcharges?

I seem to pay about 35 - 40% of the monthly net charges in taxes and tacked on surcharges. What about you?

rileyjam514
There You Go Again...

join:2005-06-26
Kearny, NJ
So tell me again..

Where is all this money going? And why did it take until now to bring this to light?

yazdzik
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said by rileyjam514 See Profile :

Where is all this money going?
The Spanish-American War was very expensive.....


WaronLag

@comcast.net

It is like most taxes

The tax they collect does not go to an account marked from paying off the Spanish American war, it goes into a general fund which can then go to any thing the government needs or has to provide.

As far as you can consider it might as well be a tax on the "War on Terror" or War on Drugs, or even into Bush's paycheck.

dogo88

join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
reply to yazdzik
Re: So tell me again..

Si.


maartena
Stacked.
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reply to JeedaiKnight
Re: Once a tax...

You're absolutely right. In the country I grew up in they announced a 25 cent (in dutch guilders, about $0.12) increase on the fuel prices over a period of 10 years after which it would be taken away. The deal was that in those 10 years, drastic improvements for the freeway system would be paid for. That happenend, new freeways were opened up, existing ones were widened, tunnels and bridges were built, etc, etc.

But the 10 years were over in 2002 or so, and did they give back the 25 cents? Of course not! Now they had gotten so used to the extra income in the books - whether they had more freeway expansion plans or not - and the fuel prices never dropped the extra 25 cents.

And with fuel prices averaging between $5 and $6 per gallon (yeah, you Americans have no idea how CHEAP fuel is here), the extra 25 cents (now about 0.10 Eurocents) would have been a very welcome relief for drivers..... BUT they just had to keep that money in their pockets.

Its the same in every country. Once they instate a tax, its gonna take a lot of effort to cancel the tax, if ever cancelled at all.....
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TKJunkMail
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Write your congresscritter

Don't want to be taxed for everything, then write your congressperson and complain about all the nickel and dime taxes the government passed and never revoked. That effort is called tax simplification. And here is a web site that can help you complain to Congress about tax reform:
»www.business.com/directory/accou···_reform/
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maartena
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Re: So tell me again..

said by rileyjam514 See Profile :

Where is all this money going?
It pays for new wars.


Chris 313
Come get some
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Oh, please.

Come on, people, this was over a century ago and we're still paying for this. Stupid, no? Instead of collecting for something that is long dead and over, how about collecting for improvement of service?


HardwareGeek

join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
Tax us

All of you don't want to be taxed but your the first ones to demand services. Don't like being taxed write your local taxes off on your 1099 since you are allowed too.
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RayW
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reply to rileyjam514
Re: So tell me again..

said by rileyjam514 See Profile :

Where is all this money going? And why did it take until now to bring this to light?
Every couple of years or so this same subject comes up and the *insert favorite party/president to bash* rolls it under the table and keeps on going.
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DrewCapu
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Very Slashdot-esque topic duping

»Spanish American War...

I take it we'll here about this tax next year also?


maartena
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Re: It is like most taxes

said by WaronLag :

As far as you can consider it might as well be a tax on the "War on Terror" or War on Drugs, or even into Bush's paycheck.
Any (federal) tax could be considered "part of Bush's paycheck". For a leader of a nation, the President of the United States does not make a whole lot of money by the way.

Bill Clinton now makes more money in one month making speeches all around the world then he ever did as a President in a whole year.

The President of the United States earns $400,000 a year. The vice president's annual salary is $186,300. Which is not an awful lot if you compare it to a CEO of a mid-sized company or even a good lawyer or surgeon.

Bill Clinton charges between $50,000 and $100,000 for a single speech.
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RayW
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reply to DrewCapu
Re: Very Slashdot-esque topic duping

said by DrewCapu See Profile :

»Spanish American War...

I take it we'll here about this tax next year also?
Or in another couple of years, if history holds true.
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richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
Whats the Rub

You think this is bad wait for the bill for universal, muni wifi, broadband to rural ares becomes due. Taxes upon taxes upon taxes.

fiberguy
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reply to maartena
Re: It is like most taxes

Yea? And your point? Why should the president make more than $400,000.00 a year?

When did PUBLIC SERVICE become viewed as a job vs what it is? It's a duty/honor to serve the public.

Also, when you add in the extras that the president gets, he/she is paid FAR more then $400,000.00 per year.

The president gets free health care, meals, housing in a very nice home, all expenses paid living, travel in a very nice vehicle and the pay doesn't stop after their term ends and they quit working.

Come on. Besides, If you ask me, $400,000 is alot of money for a job that THEY wanted, in the first place, and they get far more out of personally.


oliphant
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When the whores made a career out of public service.


cableties
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Taxation without representation, Part deux.

Communications should not be taxed.
Internet sales should be taxed. (creditcard companies can do it)
Vices should be taxed.
There should be a politician tax (Lie Tax of 2008).
Hillary Clinton should be taxed.
Lottery is a stupid people tax.
We need to tax the weather. How dare it rain on my parade!



Ok Ok. But I find it amusing how the Utility companies will collect the tax (oh boy, extra revenue!) and likely make interest off it for 12 months. Then through the magical "MaBell Subsidy Calculator" deduct what it festers on and sends the rest to the IRS. Meanwhile the duped public (aka sheeple) consumer forks over 15-20% duty to have freedom to communicate. (Just what exactly is that woman, driving a minivan, flailing both arms, at speed over 60mph, in the left, yacking about that is so important).


n2jtx

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reply to JeedaiKnight
Re: Once a tax...

Frankly I do not see the cellphone companies giving this up. If the IRS tells them to stop collecting the tax I am sure we will see the "cost recovery fees" or "other charges" go up by the exact same amount. Get used to paying it one way or another.
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