Stewy85
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I can't say that I'm surprised.
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nixen
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Alexandria, VA | And This is Legal, Why?
I mean, this smacks of fraud - to me, at least.
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Minister
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Fleeting | Don't worry, Verizon is conducting an "internal investigation" to resolve the "bugs". |
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Tzale
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Sweden |  Enemy Within?
Ever think a resident who REALLY wanted FIOS decided to do this? It's not that hard to fathom, there are people mesmerized enough by FIOS that they will do just about anything.
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TKJunkMail
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The other side of this battle, and pretending to be friends of all the little towns, are the cable companies. They are fighting a statewide franchise law because the last thing they want to see is Verizon in their backyards offering TV pkgs at 25 to 30% less than they offer. And if you believe that they care about the rights of all these little communities, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
The statewide franchise law is best for the consumer, no matter who is pushing for it.
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AJ023
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Forest Hills, NY | reply to Stewy85
Re: Hmmm...
The only person who is blowing smoke is the person who posted this topic in an effort to ruin these organizations. I hope they sue Broadband Reports as they should for false accusations. |
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packetscan
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Re: And This is Legal, Why?
said by nixen  :I mean, this smacks of fraud - to me, at least. -tom Your not alone..
I'm disgusted as well.
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RayW
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Re: Hmmm...
said by AJ023 :The only person who is blowing smoke is the person who posted this topic in an effort to ruin these organizations. I hope they sue Broadband Reports as they should for false accusations. And the newspapers for publishing the information too?
said by North Jersey Media Group Inc. :
Edward J. McKenna Jr., mayor of Red Bank for the past 16 years, thought he had seen just about everything.
But that was before the unsigned letters started pouring into his office last fall.
"All unsigned, all from the same fax machine, all supporting more competition in cable television," McKenna said. "It was very suspicious, so I decided to check them out.''
McKenna found out that more than 100 of some 200 letters he received were sent from non-existent Red Bank addresses. When he called about a dozen people whose names were on the letters, about half told him they had never heard of the campaign for cable choice and had never sent him a letter.
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rileyjam514
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Kearny, NJ
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Re: And the other side: Cable fights competition
Wouldn't it be better to allow two separate franchises to operate in the same town, and therefore allow true choice of services? A statewide agreement, in my opinion, would result in everyone getting locked into one company. Given the choice, I'd rather not have Verizon. I don't see how it's required that Verizon or Comcast has to operate - can't we all just get along?
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odreian615
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Chicago, IL | more competition the better right
the price of things tend to go down and service gets better |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: And the other side: Cable fights competition
said by rileyjam514 :Wouldn't it be better to allow two separate franchises to operate in the same town, and therefore allow true choice of services? A statewide agreement, in my opinion, would result in everyone getting locked into one company. Given the choice, I'd rather not have Verizon. I don't see how it's required that Verizon or Comcast has to operate - can't we all just get along? The draft I read of the state franchise law makes the franchise non-exclusive. That means any companies can come in and provide services, including fixed wireless, other cable companies, etc. Of course they have to build out some infrastructure. So if other telcos(besides Verizon) want to provide service in some towns and not others, they are free to do so.
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rileyjam514
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Kearny, NJ | Ah. Had not read that. I should read things like that in the future. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
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Why is it 'better' to have a single statewide franchise law? The benefit to the megacorp is clear to see, but what's the benefit to the consumer? As it is right now, I can go to the town meeting, and voice MY opinion of the cable lineup. And that's just it, MY VOICE counts. Maybe it's the minority, but maybe in my neck of the woods I share the same value system as my neighbors, and we DON'T want ESPN2 at 10.00/month to be part of our package. That's OUR Benefit, that's OUR Choice. It's OUR LAND they are running wires over, so they play by OUR rules.
Name one benefit we get with a statewide franchise!
Do I get lower prices?
Do I get a voice in channel lineup changes?
Do I get the ability to demand certain levels of service?
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
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Re: Hmmm...
said by AJ023 :The only person who is blowing smoke is the person who posted this topic in an effort to ruin these organizations. I hope they sue Broadband Reports as they should for false accusations. Who said the accusations are false? They certainly seem true from the article. |
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
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Re: Enemy Within?
said by Tzale :Ever think a resident who REALLY wanted FIOS decided to do this? It's not that hard to fathom, there are people mesmerized enough by FIOS that they will do just about anything. -Tzale It's not beyond the realm of possible, but what you're saying is very unlikely.
When the body, murder weapon, and motive point to the same suspect, could it be someone else? Yes, but it's usually the suspect. |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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Re: And the other side: Cable fights competition
Do you have any of those things now? |
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA
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one benefit?
no city can deny a company the right to setup cable services within a city, hence promoting more competition.
is that enough of a benefit for you?
downside of course is individual cities have less of a say in deciding if they want a company.. local access services coming to mind.. BUT it is promoting competition that so many people want. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by G_Poobah :Name one benefit we get with a statewide franchise! Do I get lower prices? Do I get a voice in channel lineup changes? Do I get the ability to demand certain levels of service? Faster build out because you don't have to buy off every community politician in the state. They get a flat cut of revenues, so most communities actually get a better deal. It is just the pols who get less. And faster build out means competition and lower prices come sooner.
Less bureaucracy means lower prices. Faster build out means lower prices(less interest due to shorter length bank loans).
SLA's are included in the state franchise law.
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Fountainhead
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New York, NY
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Re: more competition the better right
Cable choice has been a hot button issue in NJ for a long time.
This is only going to ramp up the fight..
It will happen... it's just a matter of time.
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
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Re: And the other side: Cable fights competition
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Faster build out because you don't have to buy off every community politician in the state. They get a flat cut of revenues, so most communities actually get a better deal. It is just the pols who get less. And faster build out means competition and lower prices come sooner.
You should rephrase that: "Faster build out to dense & wealthy areas because you don't have to buy off every community politician in the state." It's good for investors (your primary interest) but there's no evidence it does anything for users.
The rest of your post is spin. Particularly the "lower prices" and competition bit, which reeks of baseless Conservative think tank deregulatory rhetoric.
In rural America, often the only thing bringing providers to certain areas are deals struck locally via franchise agreements.
The low-price orgy and competitive utopia you think state-wide franchises bring are a fairy tale. A carrot held out to lawmakers and uninformed citizens who lack brain cells.
And of course there's the elimination of public access, and special-deals, struck by locals who know what that community really needs, that can often get schools in low income neighborhoods wired.
No, the sole purpose of a statewise franchise is so an incumbent can concentrate all five-hundred of your lobbyists at one lawmaker in the state-legislature, and more effectively ensure you dole out as few "extras" to communities as possible. |
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