NoOneButMe
join:2001-08-24
TX | Comtek should use the good gear
come one Ham radio has been around for years dont bash them Comtek |
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glidereric
join:2001-12-06
Seattle, WA
1 edit | BPL
Being a consulting engineer who has worked in the field of RF communications for almost 40 years I have followed the debate about BPL.. I have advised clients not to invest in the current technologies because they cause interference to HF services.
I frankly don't understand why the power companies don't exploit their monopoly of power poles going by virtually every home with Fiber. Totally non polluting and absolutely immune to RF outside interference!
We have been sadly served by the administrators of the FCC.
Attorneys should stay in their field of expertise! |
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline
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Re: Comtek should use the good gear
said by NoOneButMe  :come one Ham radio has been around for years dont bash them Comtek Translation:
"Come on. Ham radio has been around for years. Don't bash them, Comtek."
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Slacker44
join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ
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You are right. HAMS are ALWAYS right. All the HAMS have to do is breath and every nerd patrol geek starts to post. It's NEVER the HAMS fault. I am so sick of this crap.
I have talked about this before. This in not broadband news. I don't care what people say. |
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K4GVT
join:2006-01-24
Manassas, VA
| What resolution???
The interference continues and COMTek is hiding their head in the sand hoping we'll just "go away". After years of trying to work with this Main,net junk, it's obvious this poorly designed system needs to be stopped! There are good choice's for equipment, unfortunately COMTek has not researched the availability and just jumped in to make a buck! |
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Slacker44
join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ | reply to glidereric
Re: BPL
You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems.
It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
| said by Slacker44 :You are right. HAMS are ALWAYS right. All the HAMS have to do is breath and every nerd patrol geek starts to post. It's NEVER the HAMS fault. I am so sick of this crap. I have talked about this before. This in not broadband news. I don't care what people say. said by Slacker44 :You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems. It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! Ummm....since you are the apparent expert, how is it the Ham's fault?
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
 ·Sprint Broadband D..
| said by RayW :said by Slacker44 :You are right. HAMS are ALWAYS right. All the HAMS have to do is breath and every nerd patrol geek starts to post. It's NEVER the HAMS fault. I am so sick of this crap. I have talked about this before. This in not broadband news. I don't care what people say. said by Slacker44 :You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems. It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! Ummm....since you are the apparent expert, how is it the Ham's fault? Do you smell astroturf? I smell astroturf. Do you smell astroturf? 
Do not, repeat, do not expect an answer. |
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glidereric
join:2001-12-06
Seattle, WA
1 edit | reply to K4GVT
Re: What resolution???
Frankly I've been amazed that the BPL "PUSH" has lasted as long as it has!
I've talked to a number of power company CEO's who are totally clueless to the technical problems of Broadband over Powerlines. Once I get them to talk to a number of RF EE types like myself they realize they have been duped!
I've followed a number of utilities and one I really like is Grant County PUD in Eastern Washington.. They have gone Fiber big time and look to make a lot of $$$ going forward.
Just good engineering folks!
Eric |
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Slacker44
join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ
| reply to TScheisskopf
Re: BPL
No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E.
I forgot. Disasters.
Me, being the idiot that I am, can say "Hey but in a ubah disaster there isn't any power!!"
Then mr smart HAM nerd will say "That isn't the problem. HAMS in the disaster can't contact other hams that live near the BPL's that are already in place."
.. because you know BPL is everywhere.
Nerd #1 can't contact nerd #2 and say "help me from the ubah disaster sir". I assume they can call nerd #2-1000 though. Seeing that BPL is in so few places.
So aside from the disaster card which you play everytime the "trolls" come calling, why should we care about your hobby? Technology wins. Buy a cell phone.
"cell phones won't work in an ubah disaster!"
I wasn't talking disasters that time sir. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to glidereric
Agreed - I don't know why they don't also try something like this - its been successful in Canada
»www.look.ca/page.asp?intNodeID=2430 |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
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said by Slacker44 :No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E. Let's say for a moment that your argument is valid, that ham radio has no value whatsoever. Does it make sense to ruin a wide swath of radio spectrum that has worldwide communications capabilities, and the ruin of this resource is due to a wired network that doesn't even use the wireless spectrum to provide the service?
The answer is NO. N O |
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Slacker44
join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ | That is a better argument than the disaster card. Atleast I can respect that. |
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N3EVL
join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA | So, now your respect has been earned, exactly what do you propose as a solution to the spectrum pollution presently taking place in the Manassas system? |
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N3EVL
join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA | reply to Slacker44
Re: Comtek should use the good gear
So, you agree that there is fault to be found? Can you explain your theories so that we might learn more? |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to Slacker44
Re: BPL
said by Slacker44 :No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E ....deleted a lot of garbage. So in other words, just because you have no need of it, then it can be destroyed for other people's use. Oh, and btw, in the 1.8 to 40 MHz range that we are talking about, Hams are only using about 4 MHz of it. Also, international treaties will come into play, not only on the ham bands, but on the other bands when the sunspot cycles get back to the good propagation levels, also many public/government services (your tax dollar at work) depend on those frequencies (I use some in my work). Our local sheriff uses VHF because the trunking system and cell phones do not work in some areas.
You remind me of a lady I once heard. San Francisco, about 1980, the State of California held a public hearing on the use of pesticides (I was working for that department as an electrical engineer). This well meaning lady, perfectly serious, got up and said (slightly paraphrased after 26 years) "Why do farmers have to use pesticides to grow their food, why can't they go to the grocery store like the rest of us?".
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ColateralDMG
join:2005-06-13
Mcdonough, GA
| BPL needs some work
You know I'd just make a main junction near allot of power line branches a CO string the poles with fiber to the neighborhood then have a wireless setup possibly Wi-Max in nature send that signal to the homes. Then again you could have a sort of mesh network with multiple antennas on the poles and serve a mobile networking crowd. Just my two cents as to what I would enjoy seeing on my power lines. |
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dingus_b
@swbell.ne
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Re: What resolution???
The Grant County PUD is exactly what should be implemented. This opens the door to a whole slew of options.
Curious if the there could be public funding of the implementation of a fiber optic system and then bid out the operation and upkeep of the system. Also I would be curious if this would allow multiple vendors to serve as ISP's? |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| reply to Slacker44
Re: BPL
said by Slacker44 :That is a better argument than the disaster card. Atleast I can respect that. Then what should we use to communicate in a disaster? Smoke Signals? Your comments are inflammatory and completely biased against hams.
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AnonName
@kaballero.com | reply to K4GVT
Re: What resolution???
It is fricking Manassas, what the hell do you expect? Competence? It is like in fricking "Lorena Bobbit County", Virginia. What the hell do you expect? Sanity? |
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