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Comments on news posted 2006-01-31 12:10:57: Long before Sony's rootkit DRM there was Starforce, a stealth driver installing copy-protection scheme we discussed at length after our users began to complain about it. Since then, some users have decided to Boycott any games that use the contro.. ..

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belawrence
It's All About The Games

join:2000-08-06
Santee, CA
Uh-oh

better not insult anyone or speak my mind, or I might get sued!?!?!?
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MegamelTa

join:2001-12-11
Sweden
 Boycott Starforce

Sounds good to me. Count me in.


garagerock
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Louisville, KY

reply to belawrence
Re: Uh-oh

Part of the new facism our culture wholeheartedly endorses. Don't think, don't speak-or get sued. Corporations who indulge in this kind of media-come-uppance-to-boost-PR-and-therefore-stock-price behavior should make better products, not rely on lawsuits.

First amendment, anyone?


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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#2 said it best.

said by Number 2 from Austin Powers :
"don't you see? there are no nations anymore... it's all corporations."
that quote is becoming more true every day.:(


TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO

harassment?

Interesting, it is now harassment to post your first amendment opinion of a product or service on your website or blog. Man the BBB might want to watch out, they are harassing thousands of other crappy, third-rate scam artists too.

»hotcarl.diaryland.com


fegul
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join:2004-08-23
united state

O M G.

What kind of message does that send? You hurt our feelings with your insults, so we'll sue and obtain monetary windfall because of the emotional tourment you've caused us. WTH??

Granted, they're probably pissed that a couple gamers wont buy games with their DRM, but if the games are good enough (hint hint), I doubt that will stop most gamers from buying it.

This+the article on the "Tiered web" idea is making me question the intelligence of some people in the IT biz.
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Minvaren
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 Approximately?

So, they're stating that they're not sure how many international laws stating one's opinion in public breaks?

This lawsuit should be interesting.


broadbander

join:2005-07-21
Brooklyn, NY

reply to C0deZer0
Re: #2 said it best.

said by C0deZer0 See Profile :

said by Number 2 from Austin Powers :
"don't you see? there are no nations anymore... it's all corporations."
that quote is becoming more true every day.:(
I think the militaries of the world would disagree agree with you.

When Walmart could beat the AU (a not particularly powerful, but still sizeable, centralized military force) without any government supports in a full-scale war, maybe I'll listen. Until then, military coalitions are certainly still holding the cards.


Dominokat
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Cry babies

Wahhh wahhh.... cry babies.

So, if someone calls me names, I can sue them? Damn, if I knew this a long time ago I would be rich!
All those times in high school... just think of the money!
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kpatz
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Manchester, NH

reply to Minvaren
Re: Approximately?

They're full of hooey. I doubt they broke any international laws, they're just posing empty threats.

Unless some third-rate country has a law prohibiting blog entries that say "so-and-so sucks, boycott them", that is...
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Phil
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reply to Dominokat
Re: Cry babies

There have been suits in the past over libel.
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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reply to Dominokat
Yep, Starforce creators are a bunch of crybabies!


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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reply to broadbander
Re: #2 said it best.

But the military forces of the world are run by politicians that have already been bought out by corporations.


rideboarder
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reply to MegamelTa
Re: Boycott Starforce

said by MegamelTa See Profile :

Sounds good to me. Count me in.
I have been boycotting them ever since I purchased a game that used it. Installing and using that game was just a pain in the butt. Starforce needs to die considering it's on the same level as malware.


hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA

reply to mrchris
Who wrote this???

"Dear Sir, calling StarForce "Anti-copying malware" is a good enough cause to press charges and that is what our corporate lawyer is busy doing right now. I urge you to remove your post because it is full of insults, lies, false accusations and rumors. Your article violates approximately 11 international laws. Our USlawyer will contact you shortly. I have also contacted the FBI , because what you are doing is harassment."

This appears to be written by one of their company monkeys. You would think that their "USLawyer" would write a formal, so called, cease and desist letter.


Jason Levine
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Reminds me of Gator/Claria

Remember when Gator/Claria threatened web sites that called Gator spyware? This is the same thing. The "anti-copying" part is just an accurate description of what the product does (stop copying). The "malware" is an opinion based on the actions of the product. Pure free speech.

Any lawsuit based on this would likely get tossed out. However, I doubt that Starforce intends for this to get to the lawsuit stage. They are likely hoping that the mere threat will silence their critic. If he stands up to them and refuses to remove the entry, Starforce will likely do nothing.
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Thaler
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Encino, CA
reply to rideboarder
Re: Boycott Starforce

Is there a compilation list of what games use StarForce, or other malware? I'd gladly hop on board a boycott of junk like this.


rexbinary
Mod King
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Plano, TX
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List of games using Starforce?

Anyone know where I can find a list of games that use Starforce so I know what games to avoid and what publishers to contact to complain?

NM I found one:

»www.glop.org/starforce/#games


2kmaro
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reply to hopeflicker
Re: Who wrote this???

I generally have found that when someone writes something like that, they are also generally speaking through some other orifice than the usual one applied to that purpose.

You don't tell all the laws, etc, you let your legal department send the letter worded in suitable legalese.

I haven't read the blog, but would only comment that so long as negative comments are truthful, then StarForce doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. If the statements are false and it can be proven that they were written with malicious intent and/or caused damages, then and only then might StarForce have a libel case to take to court with some hope of winning.
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Thaler
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reply to broadbander
Re: #2 said it best.

said by broadbander See Profile :

When Walmart could beat the AU (a not particularly powerful, but still sizeable, centralized military force) without any government supports in a full-scale war, maybe I'll listen.
I dunno. Them greeters can swing a mean shopping cart around.
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