GlenQuagmire
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | AOL the Internet with tranning wheels
AOL the Internet with training wheels. |
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Barmat
Uhmmm Floor Pie
join:2000-11-01
Union City, CA
clubs: | For a price, spam all you want
 Does this mean AOL will stop blocking spam if the company pays? WOW, AOL sounds like it's turning their spam filters off for a price. |
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs: 
| Just stop emailing AOL members...
I run a site and if AOL requires me to pay them so users can get their registration details... guess who wont be getting thier registration emails via AOL...
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Steve B
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
| WOW
That is why I don't completely trust ISPs to block spam. They're in the business for money. So why wouldn't they open up their spam doors if the spammers pay. What a buch of crap. I'm glad to see MSN hasn't followed suit.....yet. Even if they do. I use Outlook 2003 which has it's own spam filtering. I have my filters set to exclusive anyway. |
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jpark
join:2005-02-05
Jackson, TN
| Internet access -- sort of ...
I've never understood how any ISP feels they have the right to restrict my access, email, etc.
Suppose you don't receive an important email because your ISP blocked it. Could there not be some liability to the ISP for that?
Of course, I have never used AOL and won't. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  Soon pay for mass mailings will be email model
I do think that all the major ISPs will eventually migrate to an email model that will only allow mass mailings(both inbound and outbound) based on a tiny charge for each addressee. And then they will block all mass mailings from anyone not paying.
And then, to cutoff the botnets, comes even more stringent controls on how many people an ISP's customers can send to on any message and then limits on number of messages per month before emails are blocked completely, unless additional fees are paid.
And I believe most customers will go along with this to end the flood of SPAM.
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TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA | "Legit" spammers?
Is that anything like "honest politicians?" |
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harveythearrdvark
@comcast.net
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Re: Internet access -- sort of ...
email is and has been, and should always be considered a "best effort" system, in other words, the cooperating networks of the internet will make a best effort to get your email to its destination, but there is no guarantee. If you are sending something truly important where delivery is essential, send it via FAX, telephone or FEDEX (or UPS if you want them to drop kick it across the country first).... |
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mooboynyc
join:2004-12-02
Media, PA | reply to Steve B
Re: WOW
Hotmail/MSN does use a similar service already, BondedSender, only MSN doesn't guarantee anything with regards to deliveries even if you use BS. |
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to TheWickerMan
Re: "Legit" spammers?
What they really mean is "Legit Bulk Mailers". Not all bulk mailers are spammers or even commercial (For example, mailing lists). There are other legitimate commercial bulk mailers (some people do want to receive information from companies they do business with).
However, this could hurt mailing lists, forcing some to unsubscribe and prohibit AOL e-mail address, since they won't have the money. |
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ibpitcher2
join:2003-10-29
New York, NY
| As if AOL can fix their email
Reminds me of when I checked my AOL email for the first time in a year because I wanted to register something without using my real email. I checked, it said I had 19 new messages.. Each one was spam, from like the same 2 spammers, and the one thing I had solicited was sitting there in my spam folder. gg |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
| reply to harveythearrdvark
Re: Internet access -- sort of ...
I think my ISP does a good job because they do a combination of both. They let everything through, but pre-tag the email with spam-high, spam-medium, spam-low. That way I can easily configure filters. If they mis-tag an email no big deal, because I still get it, and alter my filters for it. |
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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs:
·Comcast
| AOL and Email
hmm all this is going to do is hurt the small times who have users/clients using AOHell..
example: we run a decent sized forum and a good 30% of our 18K members use aol.. where we are current on their bulk senders list. if this were to be implimented we (along with 1000's of others) would be forced to pay this fee to send our routine email notices to aol users. not cool for non-profit / hobby site owners. (remember not all websites are out to rape your wallet)
guess we'll have to block aol users now..
sux to be an AOHell user, huh?
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL | reply to GlenQuagmire
Re: AOL the Internet with tranning wheels
That is true.. and we all went that route at some point. |
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jpark
join:2005-02-05
Jackson, TN | reply to averagedude
Re: Internet access -- sort of ...
Tagging is fine. Just discarding email isn't.
I just wonder how AOL subscribers will feel when they find that their favorite newsletter is discarded because the sender didn't pay AOL a fee to let it through. |
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GeekJedi
RF is Good For You
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join:2001-06-21
Mukwonago, WI
clubs:
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| reply to pokesph
Re: AOL and Email
Actually, that is not true. Your email will not be blocked at all. It just will have pictures and links disabled...the user can choose to enable them.
That will cost nothing.
Really...has anybody *read* the article?
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | What about Yahoo? I use my SBCGlobal account for a bit. What will the changes do on the yahoo end, since it doesn't do the whole blocking images/links thing? |
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Acesz
@comcast.net
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Its useless, customers have to agree to receive these:
America Online and Yahoo, two of the world's largest providers of e-mail accounts, are about to start using a controversial system that gives preferential treatment to messages from companies that pay from 1/4 of a cent to a penny each to have them delivered. The senders must contact only people who have agreed to receive their messages, or risk being blocked entirely. |
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claudeo
join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA | reply to GeekJedi
Re: AOL and Email
I have read the article. The mail will be blocked, not just the pictures and links. And that means *any* legitimate email, like the note to a buddy or the response from a small business to a product enquiry.
Shameful. |
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manhole
join:2000-09-12
Modesto, CA
clubs: | reply to ssj4android
Yahoo mail does block images from displaying when something is routed into your bulk mail folder. And if your yahoo mail doesn't do this, you have to go turn it on in your spam preferences. |
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