Admj
join:2001-01-17
Placentia, CA |  Competition
Competition should bring better prices, go a head Rocky... Hit him!
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
1 edit | gee, ain't duopoly competition great!
[sarcasm] wow, with these behemoths slugging it out (in the press, anyway), I can just feel those lower prices and higher speeds anytime now. [/sarcasm]
Just think of what real competition would be like!
From one of the articles:
"Seidenberg says the market--not the government--needs to decide who will help subsidize the billions of dollars telcos like Verizon (nyse: VZ - news - people ) are spending to bury fiber-optic pipe across the U.S."
Sounds like the good 'ole telco mindset to me: we're not building anything unless you guarantee we make a profit. Note the use of the word "subsidize" - that's how the existing networks got built, by government mandating that customers subsidize the investment thru guaranteed profit. Now they want the same deal with fiber; it's worse this time , however, because the bells are using fiber to REPLACE their copper. What they should be doing is turning the legacy copper over to the government (or to the customers that subsidized it) for any company that wants to use it. If they did that though, there would be some actual competition and they certainly don't want that.
I don't think the bells ever understood what the word "competition" means. |
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ALBININI234
@12.206.x.x
thumbs down from:
ArchAngel21x 
| Rick Folk
Too bad Verizon is only deploying fiber to the rich folk. |
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Rojo78
join:2005-09-21
Hollywood, FL | Just Wondering...
How come Verizon has all this money to spend in FIOS and the other local Telcos don't even have plans to deploy? Sux if you are not on a Verizon serviced area. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | reply to nasadude
Re: gee, ain't duopoly competition great!
I'd prefer a Triopoly or Quadaoply |
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divdiv
join:2005-10-15
Tucson, AZ
| reply to Rojo78
Re: Just Wondering...
said by Rojo78 :Sux if you are not on a Verizon serviced area. Tell me about it. I could die waiting for Qwest to bring fiber anywhere near my house. 
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nshulga
join:2002-06-06
Morrisville, PA | reply to ALBININI234
Re: Rich Folk
Never realised I'm rich, thanks for letting me know. I guess I'll resign from my job tomorrow and head straight for the Bahamas... |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: |  I Seriously Doubt Your Resolve, Ivan
Prove me wrong. Bring it to Rockville! |
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AJ023
join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY
| I dont always agree with Seidenberg but now I do!
This time I am in complete agreement with Seidenberg!
The FREE MARKET will determine who is BEST. As LONG AS all the carriers play by the rules but in NY State when Spitzer wins for Governor, come 2007 they will be required to do such in NY State 
So as we take everything into context, I agree with Seidenberg here.
Seidenberg needs to get FIOS TO MY MDU in Queens in NYC! |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to JTRockville
Re: I Seriously Doubt Your Resolve, Ivan
said by JTRockville :Prove me wrong. Bring it to Rockville! Me first missy. |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| reply to nshulga
Re: Rich Folk
said by nshulga :Never realised I'm rich, thanks for letting me know. I guess I'll resign from my job tomorrow and head straight for the Bahamas... Yea, someone said that yesterday about only the rich getting it, it's not true, people just love to spout shit they know nothing about  |
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX | reply to ALBININI234
Re: Rick Folk
said by ALBININI234 :
Too bad Verizon is only deploying fiber to the rich folk.
How crass. It's not "rich" it's "comfortable". |
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PinHead
Premium
join:2002-06-19
The Dungeon
clubs:
| Hopefully half the ISP's drop!
ISP have been charging way to much for service that you can only use this way or that way. They have been overselling their capabilities and reaping huge profits.
The minute someone tries to use the capabilities promised or even half of what is promised. They are kicked from the network.
Sorry but no tears from this internet subscriber.
All ISP's have been raping America long enough.
Time for a change!
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
|  FIOS is nothing to worry about
Don't you know there is no threat because Comcast the other day according to the site were are now said so!! There is no way they could be wrong in their opinion.:)
My long winded take on this is here
»iggyz.com/blog/_archives/2006/2/···591.html
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| Let's translate..
Lie #1 : "We have huge issues surrounding how we build backbone facilities and access to the broadband world, and I think Google as well as us and others need to let the markets settle that," he said.
Translation : Oh shit, my dumbass VP opened his mouth, spilled our secret plans to the press before we've paid off enough politicians. We'll need to backpedal cause we're about to be bitchslapped by the government.
Lie #2 : "Telcos like Verizon and AT&T counter that because their networks are just that--their networks--they should be allowed to charge fees for faster access to partner sites."
Translation : Well, sure, we built the networks with guaranteed profits over the last 50 years. And yes, the taxpayers subsidized the buildout at a HUGE cost (very expensive long distance, free access to land, guaranteed profits). Now someone else is making money off it, and WE DEMAND that we get our cut. Hey, the mob does it all the time, why do they get all the special breaks?
Lie #3: "Opponents say that government regulation is overkill and that a free market will help speed up network development"
Translation : Waaaaaah, Waaaaaaaaah.. We don't think anyone should be able to build except us, and we'll sue anyone who tries to. Waaaaah, waaaaaah.. The nasty cable companies have more subscribers... waaaaaah, waaaaaah. We'll fire everyone if you don't give us what we want, like PA did when we SWORE we'd have fiber to the entire state by 2004. Waaaaaaah, waaaaaaaah..
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Sure the internet has lots of porn and piracy, but I'm sure there's a downside to it. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Admj
Re: Competition
said by Admj :Competition should bring better prices, go a head Rocky... Hit him! I always love when they use that Rocky pic.
"I vill break ewww" |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to ALBININI234
Re: Rick Folk
said by ALBININI234 :
Too bad Verizon is only deploying fiber to the rich folk.
sucks to be a "havenot". I'm a "have" but guess what? i live in a (QWEST)Qworst state so no FIOS fibre for me either. Cox is as good as it gets in arizona.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | reply to moonpuppy
Re: I Seriously Doubt Your Resolve, Ivan
* sneaks into Verizon's deployment plans, and erases Glen Burnie off the map *
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to divdiv
Re: Just Wondering...
said by divdiv :said by Rojo78 :Sux if you are not on a Verizon serviced area. Tell me about it. I could die waiting for Qwest to bring fiber anywhere near my house. Even if they brought it tomorrow, it would be capped at 1.5 and 5.0mbps anyway. you can get that pretty much everywhere(unless you are in a charter area)
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
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sbdjaro
I Dunno
Premium
join:2004-01-29
Grand Junction, CO
| reply to ALBININI234
Re: Rick Folk
"'Our initial deployment areas, they’re where we’ve seen an appetite for broadband and where we think people will want to buy it. As time goes along we’ll deploy it in more and more of our service area,' Verizon spokeswoman Sharon Cohen-Hager said." |
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