Jafo232
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Boonville, NY | Good Luck
Good luck, but I do believe the recording for your own personal use has already be addressed.
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yeabut
@208.17.x.x | Yea, but their worried about the morons who put it on the internet, make copies of the whole season and give it to friends...etc. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by Jafo232  :Good luck, but I do believe the recording for your own personal use has already be addressed. If HBO was allowed to legally block off recording of their SVOD content(as opposed to their usual HBO channels, which is not the content being discussed here), I would see that as being anti-consumer and would refuse to use their content(both subscription and otherwise). If they actually went thru with this, it would hurt their business and profits. Not a very smart move.
SVOD defined:»www.ncta.com/Docs/PageContent.cfm?pageID=107
Subscription Video on Demand, or SVOD, is a Video on Demand service offered at a flat (subscription) price that provides viewers with unlimited access to select programs from the libraries of featured cable networks. In other words, not their regular channels, but the HBO VOD offerings which comes as part of a pkg when subscribing to their regular scheduled channels. And I don't know about all cable systems, but COMCAST doesn't allow you to record any VOD content now with their DVRs. I guess HBO is concerned about people using their own instead of the cable company supplied DVRs.
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Jafo232
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join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY
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said by yeabut :
Yea, but their worried about the morons who put it on the internet, make copies of the whole season and give it to friends...etc.
And that is new how? Pirating is already illegal, passing further laws will not make it any more illegal.
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Jon
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join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL | How would they stop it?
If you can see it, There's a way to record it... |
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ogar
join:2001-12-05
Ephrata, PA
clubs: | reply to Jafo232
Re: Good Luck
Does HBO not realize that movies come to DVD first.
The DVD can be converted to an MP4 and posted to the internet. |
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yzerman
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join:2001-12-04
Grand Rapids, MI | You can't do that legally. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| The beginning of the end proposed
In the beginning, they just outlawed recording Video on Demand. I didn't complain, because I though it was their video, and they could do what they wanted. I could always order it again.
Next they outlawed recording premium content. I never minded that, because it was their content, and they could do what they wanted. I could always buy the DVD when it was released.
Then they outlawed recording over the air content. I never protested, because it was broadcast in high def, and I wanted to support the rollout of new technologies.
Then they banned reading. My kids didn't complain because they never knew any better. The past was whatever the TV said it was. There was no record of 'roe vs. wade', because all records of the media in the past had been wiped clean. The echos of Trotsky rumble through the media, and we are all content.
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BillTager
join:2000-09-20
Charlotte, NC
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Re: Good Luck
said by ogar :Does HBO not realize that movies come to DVD first. The DVD can be converted to an MP4 and posted to the internet. Though the brief article linked in the headline didn't specifiy it, I have a feeling this may be intended to keep their original programing from being recorded. I'm sure they make a ton of cash on DVD releases of The Sopranos, SFU, The Wire [BEST CRIME DRAMA EVER], etc.)
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chudel
join:2002-01-20
Pineville, NC | reply to Jafo232
What will DirecTV do? That's the premise of their video on demand service - download it to the PVR when you're sleeping and then when you wake up, ta da! |
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walliser
join:2002-01-27
Philadelphia, PA
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Re: The beginning of the end proposed
Bit overly dramatic, don't you think? The original quote was quite different and way more troubling. banning books... as if people read anyway...
Reading up on the linked page, this is specifically related to video on demand, and not regular programming. Why would one want to record video on demand anyway?
Over the air or regular programming, now that is different. I have no problem with recording for personal (household anyone) use, but recording and then flooding the internet with it, that is something even I have to say is where I draw the line. One can argue about the effectiveness of what HBO intends to do or what it will later on lead to, but once again, what is the point in recording VOD content? |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | True, it is on demand and there when you want it so why should anyone need to record it to "view later"? |
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jimi419
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join:2002-03-14
Round Lake, IL
clubs: | not to play the devils advocate but the VOD chocies r always changing not like a month from now u can watch a movie that was there today at least on comcast |
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TrainBuff
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Buffalo, NY
clubs: | reply to Skippy25
If I'm not mistaken. On Adelphia, you can't record any VOD on your DVR. Or at least on Adelphia's DVR's |
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Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA
| Tivo can handle it
Tivo already has functionality built in to prevent recordings leaving the tivo box .. preventing transferes between boxes or to the desktop.. They can even exipre it after x days without your intervention.
Of course, this doesn't help any if you have alternate methods to access tivo material.
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Xela19115
join:2000-10-06
Richboro, PA
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| HBO Petitions FCC To Prevent DVR Recording
As far as I know Comcast does not let its customers to time-shift any VOD content (SVOD including) at all. Neither to the DVR or through a IEEE-1394 to PC's or D-VHS recorders. It's already hosted on VOD server so there is really no need to time-shift or record it (their opinion, not mine). A user is allowed to record it via analog ports to a regular VCR or TiVO but that's it, nothing else. No digital copies. |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Right hand vs Left hand
Yet another case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
Time Warner cable and HBO are part of the same company. Time Warner Cable is pushing DVRs to get and retain customers. HBO is trying to block DVRs.
Aside from the fact Time Warner needs to get its ducks in a row. Why does HBO just tell Time Warner Cable to add the simple code to their DVR to not allow recording on the PPV and On-Demand channels.
Yes, people could still get a 3rd party DVR or they could record those channels on other cable systems, but at least they would accomplish their goal to a very large portion of the cable market. And it would be completely legal, no different than the macro recording blocks that already exist in many video formats. But I guess you would actually have to have a brain to think of something so obvious.
This new evidence of miscommunication combined with the AOL/Time Warner Cable flubs of the last 5 years, it would seem Mr. Icahn is making more sense every day with his calls to break up Time Warner in to 4 companies.
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Mizzat
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Atlanta, GA
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| reply to Jafo232
Re: Good Luck
Gready! Stop charge $100+ for a copy of a show people pay a subscription for anyway! CDs and DVDs are so over priced, if they lowered to price to something a bit more realistic the RIAA and HBO probably wouldn't be compaining so much. I'd rather have the artist designed CD than a "is it live or is it memorex" in my CD case. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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Re: How would they stop it?
said by Jon :If you can see it, There's several ways to record it... Fixed it for you! 
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | reply to Roundboy
Re: Tivo can handle it
Mythtv won't handle it. I'm free to scp programs to any computers and transcode the programs into any format. |
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