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Comments on news posted 2006-02-14 18:34:00: Canadian cable provider Shaw is one of the more draconian throttlers of Bit Torrent traffic. With the latest versions of Bit Torrent clients (like the latest µTorrent beta or the newly released Azureus 2. ..

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SSX4life
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I love the new encryption scheme!

I love the new encryption schemes found in Utorrent and Azureus 2.4! I personally use Azurus 2.4 + Safe Peer and it's flawless for safe torrenting on the internet! I noticed a nice increase in speed on my torrents soon as I upgraded!

*note* you need to be on the exact same connection and client for the packet shaping and encryption to work.

However overall I'm VERY pleased and I can't wait for future releases.

let us use our connection how we want, and don't dodge the Fu@#$ issues rogers/shaw!!! We know you did it, and we know you lie to us, come out of the closet once and for all.

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TKJunkMail
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said by SSX4life See Profile :

let us use our connection how we want, and don't dodge the Fu@#$ issues rogers/shaw!!! We know you did it, and we know you lie to us, come out of the closet once and for all.
And are you in Canada? Your profile location says Wisconsin, USA. So how is Rogers or Shaw stopping you from using YOUR connection? Mental telepathy, perhaps??
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GigahertZ420

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by SSX4life See Profile :

let us use our connection how we want, and don't dodge the Fu@#$ issues rogers/shaw!!! We know you did it, and we know you lie to us, come out of the closet once and for all.
And are you in Canada? Your profile location says Wisconsin, USA. So how is Rogers or Shaw stopping you from using YOUR connection? Mental telepathy, perhaps??
It doesn't matter where he is located, that is a fallacy. He/she doesn't want these policies to find their way to the USA.

Traffic shaping and throttling (either concurrent connections or byte caps) are not a substitute to upgrade your network.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by SSX4life See Profile :

let us use our connection how we want, and don't dodge the Fu@#$ issues rogers/shaw!!! We know you did it, and we know you lie to us, come out of the closet once and for all.
And are you in Canada? Your profile location says Wisconsin, USA. So how is Rogers or Shaw stopping you from using YOUR connection? Mental telepathy, perhaps??
Something tells me you aren't in Pocono Pines, PA, nor have service from "Northwestel Cable" (a Canadian cable operator) either...

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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Something tells me you aren't in Pocono Pines, PA, nor have service from "Northwestel Cable" (a Canadian cable operator) either...
And that is why I asked 1st if he was in Canada. Location info might be incorrect.;)
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blacksky

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Throttling

When I upload I want my canadian brothers up north to be able to download from me and vice versa.

GigahertZ420

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Re: I love the new encryption scheme!

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Something tells me you aren't in Pocono Pines, PA, nor have service from "Northwestel Cable" (a Canadian cable operator) either...
And that is why I asked 1st if he was in Canada. Location info might be incorrect.;)
Incorrect or purposely incorrect? I ask this because I see you regularly post with different names and different locations... Just makes me and many others kind of wonder...;)


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said by GigahertZ420 See Profile :

Incorrect or purposely incorrect? I ask this because I see you regularly post with different names and different locations... Just makes me and many others kind of wonder...;)
Just trying to bring a little mystery into your drab lives.:D
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brianiscool

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Who lives there anyway? It's just a sheet of ice and people live underground. lol

GigahertZ420

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Re: I love the new encryption scheme!

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by GigahertZ420 See Profile :

Incorrect or purposely incorrect? I ask this because I see you regularly post with different names and different locations... Just makes me and many others kind of wonder...;)
Just trying to bring a little mystery into your drab lives.:D
Well as some may have alluded, the question may be which company(s) pays you to post here? You seem to regularly have a sympathetic ear to corporations and their "draconian" policies, but if your a stockholder that would explain it all...:)

I personally would like to render any and all ISP's throttling completely ineffective through VPN, encryptions, or other methods. Nothing like making a $50,000 peice of hardware utterly worthless and letting management know they should have invested that money in decent routers, switches, and backbone gear.

That and the fact that BitTorrent being an increasingly utilized method for legitimate downloads LINK makes any companies that cap/throttle look dumb and customer unfriendly


lucky644
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Shaw is just killing themselves, the future will not be a bright one for them.


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Re: I love the new encryption scheme!

They probably just keep changing his meds but they most certainly are always the red pills no matter what they are.
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Insder
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Re: Canada

They play hockey underground, then? Sounds fun.
Anyway, on the Shaw issue, I really hope they don't buy anymore throttling stuff and just FIX YOUR NETWORK with the money spent on that throttling thing. Maybe ebay it?
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Nightfall
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Another view

If I had to deal with Shaw on their throttling of Bit Torrent, I would be upset as well. However, how many current Shaw customers are upset about the throttling? Even more important, how many of them even notice it? You can bet the BBR users would notice it, but it is my guess that a bulk majority of the people who use Shaw don't use Bit Torrent or just don't notice it.

I am not pointing this out to be a prick. It is mainly to show that 98% of the people out there that use systems on the internet just don't use this kind of software or just won't notice. That doesn't make it right unless Shaw is coming out to say that they are throttling it. Oh wait, they are doing that so that takes care of that.

I hope those people in Shaw supported areas who like Bit Torrent have more than one broadband provider. Shaw owns the service and they have a right to provide the service as they see fit. Don't like it? Don't pay for it.
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G_Poobah

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reply to GigahertZ420
Re: I love the new encryption scheme!

He's just a troll.

In any case, rumor is he's paid by comcast to post here. (and yes, he works for comcast outside of Philly). Comcast admitted about 6 months ago on an internal memo that they have, and have had for several years, professional 'astroturfers' to try and counter the anti-comcast rhetoric that sprouts up. (sort of like what happens with walmart). Paying someone 400.00/week to try and obfuscate msg boards is an easy way to take advantage of the simple minded at low wages, and has the added benefit of amusing even the moderately intelligent people of their desperate attacks.

There's a couple of other posters who work for the bells, etc. They aren't hard to spot, as they follow the scripts their handlers give them to attempt to counter any comments that make their paid supporters look bad. Common tactics include, but are not limited to, diverting the conversation off on a tangent, blaming it on 'criminals', telling them to 'start their own isp', and the classic 'it's their lines, they paid for it'. It's sort of fun to watch them post, almost at the same level of zoo monkeys throwing feces. They don't really affect anything, but you have to grin at their antics.
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lucky644
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Re: Another view

said by Nightfall See Profile :

If I had to deal with Shaw on their throttling of Bit Torrent, I would be upset as well. However, how many current Shaw customers are upset about the throttling? Even more important, how many of them even notice it? You can bet the BBR users would notice it, but it is my guess that a bulk majority of the people who use Shaw don't use Bit Torrent or just don't notice it.

I am not pointing this out to be a prick. It is mainly to show that 98% of the people out there that use systems on the internet just don't use this kind of software or just won't notice. That doesn't make it right unless Shaw is coming out to say that they are throttling it. Oh wait, they are doing that so that takes care of that.

I hope those people in Shaw supported areas who like Bit Torrent have more than one broadband provider. Shaw owns the service and they have a right to provide the service as they see fit. Don't like it? Don't pay for it.
Not only is the torrent protocol spreading to apps and users might not even know it, but they're throttling normal website speeds now.

Video Google and Fileplanet are two I've noticed.


P2PPirate2

join:2005-02-02
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reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall See Profile :

If I had to deal with Shaw on their throttling of Bit Torrent, I would be upset as well. However, how many current Shaw customers are upset about the throttling? Even more important, how many of them even notice it? You can bet the BBR users would notice it, but it is my guess that a bulk majority of the people who use Shaw don't
I bet all torrent users notice it, I don't think all of them will call up Shaw and complain thier speed is down and undownloadable.

Drex_CS

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reply to lucky644
I've still yet to see proof of the so called Google Video Throttling... many have said it works fine on both sites.


hobgoblin
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reply to G_Poobah
Re: I love the new encryption scheme!

Poo Bear posted

"Common tactics include, but are not limited to, diverting the conversation off on a tangent,"

Sort of like you are doing now eh?

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GigahertZ420

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reply to P2PPirate2
Re: Another view

said by P2PPirate2 See Profile :

said by Nightfall See Profile :

If I had to deal with Shaw on their throttling of Bit Torrent, I would be upset as well. However, how many current Shaw customers are upset about the throttling? Even more important, how many of them even notice it? You can bet the BBR users would notice it, but it is my guess that a bulk majority of the people who use Shaw don't
I bet all torrent users notice it, I don't think all of them will call up Shaw and complain thier speed is down and undownloadable.
The question then becomes, "How many Shaw users play the game WOW?" I'm willing to bet it's a really high percentage (above 20%). Guess what WOW uses to deliver patches? Yup, BitTorrent. Same with many other games such as HL2 and others.

So even if you don't know your using BitTorrent, you may be using it anyway. Who knows, some users might have a hard time downloading their WOW content, and cancel service with WOW thinking it's Blizzard when it's really Shaw who is the culprit.
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