SilenceGold
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join:2003-07-31
Benton, AR | hack the planet!
First step toward accomplishment of "hack the planet!" |
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mwf
join:2000-11-26
Granite Quarry, NC | Bravo, brave
"China tomorrow will launch their own DNS system,"
Once again, if you don't like what you are getting for free, do it yourself |
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | Good luck with that!
What exactly is a "Chinese domestic analysis server"? |
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furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA
| said by dcurrey  :What exactly is a "Chinese domestic analysis server"? If they don't like what you're attempting to access it, you won't. |
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johnt
join:2002-09-13
Richmond, VA
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I am by no means an expert on DNS, so I have a general question - that some of the more knowledgeable people on this forum might laugh at. But regardless of the ridicule I might get, I am curious - if China is doing there own DNS and according to the article linked to, using .EDU, .MIL, .COM and other current top level domains - if a person in China was to register and existing .COM name (like BBR for example) - how does that work? Will China basically cut internet access to non-Chinese site creating in essence a giant INTRANET? Or am I completely misunderstanding the technicalities of how this works? |
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Okman
join:2001-10-01
92714 | I commend China....
hopefully Europe will join China. Will be good for the rest of the World. |
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Okman
join:2001-10-01
92714
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Re: Good luck with that!
said by furlonium :said by dcurrey :What exactly is a "Chinese domestic analysis server"? If they don't like what you're attempting to access it, you won't. Kinda like what the Bush admin is doing |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: I commend China....
I'm thinking this can also be used as a tool for censorship and to limit what people can see and do online. |
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Derch
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join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK | Monitor?
Wouldn't this be another step by China to monitor it's on population? |
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON
1 edit | China just want more control to censure.
China's government wants more control of the internet to censure the websites that it deems not good to the Communist party.
So by creating their OWN DNS, the government will have total control on the websites. |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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Re: Good luck with that!
said by Okman :said by furlonium :said by dcurrey :What exactly is a "Chinese domestic analysis server"? If they don't like what you're attempting to access it, you won't. Kinda like what the Bush admin is doing Hmmmm.. Not bad.. The political bashing started pretty quick..
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Jafo232
You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.
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join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY | reply to Quake110
Re: China just want more control to censure.
Couldn't chinese users just define what DNS servers they want to use, bypassing the entire thing?
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Okman
join:2001-10-01
92714
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Re: I commend China....
said by Chiyo :I'm thinking this can also be used as a tool for censorship and to limit what people can see and do online. If the China wants to censor their people and their people is happy with it, then "we" (Americans) should leave them alone.
Here's another way to look at the issue. If ICANN had opened their doors a bit more to the rest of the World, then perhaps China wouldn't resort to this strategy and perhaps "we" would be less concerned about censorship.
Censorship itself is a totally different issue too. If you think CNN, Fox News, NBC, the White House, aren't censoring news, then you're living in a protective bubble. I can never understand why Americans should be so concerned about other nations censoring their people when we have our own problems here with our govt. |
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qdemn7
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
| reply to Quake110
Re: China just want more control to censure.
said by Quake110 :China's government wants more control of the internet to censure the websites that it deems not good for the common cause. So by creating their OWN DNS, the government will have total control on the websites. Change that "common cause" to the "Communist Party" and you have the correct answer.
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furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA
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said by Jafo232 :Couldn't chinese users just define what DNS servers they want to use, bypassing the entire thing? Probably, but couldn't the ISPs find out that they're not using the default DNS servers, and the user would get into trouble? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
1 edit | reply to johnt
Re: Question
said by johnt :I am by no means an expert on DNS, so I have a general question - that some of the more knowledgeable people on this forum might laugh at. But regardless of the ridicule I might get, I am curious - if China is doing there own DNS and according to the article linked to, using .EDU, .MIL, .COM and other current top level domains - if a person in China was to register and existing .COM name (like BBR for example) - how does that work? Will China basically cut internet access to non-Chinese site creating in essence a giant INTRANET? Or am I completely misunderstanding the technicalities of how this works? Yep, you nailed it.
Instead of Chinese ISPs using the proper root DNS servers, they will just be required by Chinese law to use the new, Chinese root DNS servers, which will effectively stop all root level look ups the Chinese government doesn't want.
Talk about Big Brother. |
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OldschoolDSL
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Indian Orchard, MA
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| reply to johnt
said by johnt :I am by no means an expert on DNS, so I have a general question - that some of the more knowledgeable people on this forum might laugh at. But regardless of the ridicule I might get, I am curious - if China is doing there own DNS and according to the article linked to, using .EDU, .MIL, .COM and other current top level domains - if a person in China was to register and existing .COM name (like BBR for example) - how does that work? Will China basically cut internet access to non-Chinese site creating in essence a giant INTRANET? Or am I completely misunderstanding the technicalities of how this works? I second the question |
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Okman
join:2001-10-01
92714 | oh STOP the Chinese bashing!!!
they have over 1 billion people, and they are a growing power, and you feeble people can hate them all you want, but recognize that there is a whole new world asides from the States and if you dont like it, then don't enter. Simple, no? |
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | reply to Jafo232
Re: China just want more control to censure.
They would simply firewall all dns packets at the isp level. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by dcurrey :They would simply firewall all dns packets at the isp level. Bingo!
Much like what a lot of ISPs are doing to Port 25 here. |
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