amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| duh
nah, I'd rather have dsl...
that would make sense they're the only market in the world like that... wish we had more fiber options here. I'll never forget a little flyer mailed out about 5, 6 years ago that said "we're installing fiber, you will have access to it soon" ..little did we expect that it was to be shared, turned into coax, and shared with everyone to the point of overloaded nodes and bandwidth hogs everywhere. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | pitiful
so not only is the U.S. installing at a much lower rate, the stuff they are installing is already "old technology".
No wonder the U.S. is 16th and falling. |
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Techie714
join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA
 ·ViaTalk
|  Expected!
What else would you expect when you have large corporations involved, politicians & then everybody taking everybody to court on top of that? The whole system is so bogged down with corruption & legislation that many companies say forget dropping billions into a project that will take about 10 years to get up and running. Then you also have huge portions of the American public that have no idea what broadband is and still think the internet is “just a fad”. It’s obvious that the Japanese are a lot smarter then the U.S. when it comes to this. |
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ktaz67
join:2006-03-02
Bronx, NY
| reply to nasadude
Re: pitiful
BPON is easily upgraded to GPON or GEPON so its really not a big deal. The US does not need those higher speeds produced by GPON or GEPON at this time (BPON speeds theoretically max out at 600 mgbits while GPON is well over a GIG) but when the time is right the upgrades will be swift. To deploy the big guns now would be a waste of resources, progression is the key in buisnesses of all natures. |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
3 edits | no duh?
Of course! The whole of Japan is about the size of California. They don't have anywheres near the logistic problems or cost of laying fiber throughout a country the size of the USA. A good amount of that land mass is mountains. Their urban population is very densely packed (it's a dense pack!  ) The average Japanese dwelling is so tiny that most Americans would never want to voluntarily live with similar space confinement... and with multiple people! It's not uncommon for whole families live in one tiny apartment. Given that density, of course more of their population will have access to fiber. And since when was access to fiber a race between nations? What's the point? Wow, they can download porn faster. Gee.
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| Technically doesn't that make it all the more pathetic that they contributed to 80% of the world's growth? (If you're going to play the geography card) How many people in California have fiber-to-the home? The geography argument only floats in penetration arguments, and even then, not very well (Canada leads us, etc.) |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Well, actually, I guess it's great if you want to live in an apartment the size of a refrigerator in Japan, just as long as you have access to fiber. Right? The grass is not always greener. Those numbers don't tell the whole story.
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jipanime
| Get it right!
Anime is the pr0n of Japan.
GigabitAnimePr0n! |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to Minister
Re: no duh?
If I could get like a gigabit connection for cheap? I sure would. just hook it into my veins!!! |
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ajschmitt
join:2005-11-30 | Old News.
This was public three months ago.
»www.nyquistcapital.com/2005/11/3···eed-dsl/ |
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USA-1776
@cox.net
 from:
TheGiant 
| reply to nasadude
Re: pitiful
This is typical response from someone who went through a school system run by "teachers union" always reflexively against US and always whining. |
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silica
join:2004-05-20
Duluth, GA | reply to nasadude
Actually, Verizon installed about the same amount of fiber in 2005 as the entire country of Japan. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
1 edit | reply to Minister
Re: no duh?
said by Minister :Technically doesn't that make it all the more pathetic that they contributed to 80% of the world's growth? (If you're going to play the geography card) How many people in California have fiber-to-the home? The geography argument only floats in penetration arguments, and even then, not very well (Canada leads us, etc.) Population of Japan: 127.4 million
Population of California: 33.8 million
Just a tad bit of difference there density wise vs. land mass... 4:1 ratio |
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Otukare Good Bye
@comcast.net
| Move To Japan Problem Solved
If you feel your life and worth to society is lacking because of your lack of FTTH, easy solution. See above subject line. Good bye, so long enjoy your hot Rice bowl, Fish Soup, Chop Sticks and small table.
Otukare ~ |
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs: | reply to Cod
Re: no duh?
Yeah, but what about metro areas? Obviously they aren't gonna wire rural areas first. |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Japan is Decades ahead in Technology!
I think Japan is way ahead of us in Technology. Like I have been saying for years, Fiber and Networks are the future. Japan realized this Decades ago, so of course now they are 80% FTTH. Their Digital and Electronic Technology is far superior to ours. I wouldn't be surprised if their home Networks are Gigabit, and Streaming High Definition Video and Music common place. |
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON | The flag
...needs outlining.
Nice red dot tho - I was wondering at first w.t.h. it had to do with the story.
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BIGMIKE
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
1 edit | reply to WileEC
Re: no duh?
said by WileEC :Of course! The whole of Japan is about the size of California. They don't have anywheres near the logistic problems or cost of laying fiber throughout a country the size of the USA. A good amount of that land mass is mountains. Their urban population is very densely packed (it's a dense pack! ) The average Japanese dwelling is so tiny that most Americans would never want to voluntarily live with similar space confinement... and with multiple people! It's not uncommon for whole families live in one tiny apartment. Given that density, of course more of their population will have access to fiber. And since when was access to fiber a race between nations? What's the point? Wow, they can download porn faster. Gee. Japan |
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iotastorm
join:2006-01-24
Florissant, MO
| reply to Techie714
Re: Expected!
Well lets look at this. You have Japan most of whose population is located in dense Urban areas and multi-dwelling buildings. Its really easier to hook these up you put a DSLAM unit in the basement to connect 100's or more people at a time, run an optic link to the local office. Got a building with a lot of people in it? throw a dslam in and run an optic to it. Piece of cake.
We Americans generally like our space. We're spread-out. there are a bit more technical limitations to running things out to each home (except in the denser Urban areas in apartment buildings, we could throw dslams in there) |
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nivago
Think For Yourself
join:2000-11-16
Little Rock, AR | reply to silica
Re: pitiful
excellent point |
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