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Comments on news posted 2006-03-02 13:40:30: According to new data from Leichtman Research, cable's American dominance continues to decline, though it still holds 57% of the U.S. broadband market. U.S. cable operators now claim 24.3 million broadband subscribers, versus 18. ..

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b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA

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Hmmm...

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

One problem...

... until telcos can beat the distance limitations, cable will be better.

If some ISP would get off the stick and start pushing REAL fiber(think symetrical), then we will forever be doomed to yawnfest speeds.

There are ISPs with real connections out there, too bad they are small pockets.
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Primis1

join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI

Cable Missing the Point

Cable thinks it's a Pricing thing. In many areas, it's not. it's a Reliability and Consistency thing.

Cable simple needs to reevaluate how they approach delivery of service. As it dawns on people that they lie about speeds and aren't willing to dedicate the resources to ensure consumers reahc those speeds, the exodus will only continue until the U.S. is like every other place in the world -- DSL dominated.


BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
reply to b10010011
Re: Hmmm...

FiOS


chakey
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS

Market Expansion

What really needs to be done is for cable companies like RCN (overlayers) to go into more areas and offer more choice for Broadband. In our area, we have a choice of two cable providers. While this does not necessarily decrease the price we pay, the service and reliability are first rate because they know you can change any time you like!


Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
·Cox HSI

reply to dadkins
Re: One problem...

Were i live there is Cox and SBC/att.I have a 9/1 line for 54.00 a month SBC has a 3/384 for i think 30 something.IMHO SBC is so top heavy and Slow and cheap they will never bring Fiber here and i will stay with Cox.Yea Cox has its bad points but for me it far better than the alternative.But Im always Open if att decides there going to stop sitting on there hands and do some real upgrades then its a whole new ballgame.
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bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX
cost

the Introductory prices for dsl lately are great, here in texas basic dsl starts at $12.95

b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?

join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
reply to BIGMIKE
Re: Hmmm...

Fios?

I live in a Qwest area and FIOS is a Verizon service.

iSEPIC

join:2001-04-17
Las Vegas, NV
reply to b10010011
ATT (SBC) is only $13.00 for 1.5 down here in my area.

cobo6

join:2002-02-18
Willingboro, NJ
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to chakey
Re: Market Expansion

Unlike you, some people can't get choice. I live in Willingboro, NJ. Exit 5 on the turnpike. The only cable operater here is Comcast, or DSL from Verizon.

I was checking prices from other small local DSL providers and thier were charging close to Comcast prices for the same speed as Verizon (768). While other were alittle cheaper like 128 for about 13 dollars from one company, but the speed was just to slow for me.

JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
reply to Primis1
Re: Cable Missing the Point

You call 4.4 millions new cable subs an exodus?


tstolze
Premium
join:2003-08-08
O Fallon, MO
reply to Jigsaw
Re: One problem...

The 3/384 is currently 17.99 a month with a one year agreement if you sign up online...


JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs:
reply to chakey
Re: Market Expansion

Are any overbuilders actually building, or have they all stopped? RCN in stopped building here (they eventually formally reneged on their agreement) around half a decade ago.

hyperon
Premium
join:2006-02-04
Bastrop, TX

reply to b10010011
Re: Hmmm...

said by b10010011 See Profile :

Quest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
Yes this is the way to compare services on a dollar per mbps. Using your data:

Quest DSL is $26 per mbps.
Comcast HSI is $7 per mbps.

I pay $110 for a 6mbps /28 DSL static account with ATT:
Static DSL is 18.33 per mbps.

DSL is way too expensive.


Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
·Cox HSI

reply to tstolze
Re: One problem...

said by tstolze See Profile :

The 3/384 is currently 17.99 a month with a one year agreement if you sign up online...
Thanks but no thanks i like my 9/1 the only way i would even -think-about switching is what i said above fiber or nothing for me.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to b10010011
Re: Hmmm...

said by b10010011 See Profile :

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
I dunno. I have Comcast now, and quite frankly, I'm not terribly happy. The price just went up, and the service is pushing $50 with my privately owned cable modem.

I'm only getting about 3.3 megabit down, when they advertise 6.

For the most part, all I do at home anymore is surf the web, get e-mail, and the occasional iTunes download.

I plan on re wiring the cable coax in my house, since it is, admittedly, like a spaghetti diner and a rats nest rolled into one. I believe this will improve my modem's signal to noise ratio, and hopefully it's performance.

If not, Verizon's got a pretty good introductory rate for 768 dsl that I may look into.

Unless Comcast offered some sort of "lite" tier in the future.

Bottom line, Comcast is telling me how much faster they are, but they don't bring those speeds to the table


richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

Verizon Hung-up on me.

Two days ago I was called by a Verizon Telemarketer hawking Verizon DSL at an introductory rate of $14.00. I already have Comcast 6 Megs. I told here I was a Verizon customer and when I move a mere 5 yards across the hall to my new apartment. Verizon told me it will take 21 days and offer me their crappy dial-up this after calling two weeks in advance of my move in date to move my telephone service. I was assured my DSL would be moved at the same time but noooo. My DSL could not be moved until after 21 day after moving my phone service. Comcast only took 1.5 hours to connect me to the internet. The telemarketer hung up on me.

I am an EBay seller and spend much of my time researching for new suppliers or the value of antiques and collectables I sell. I could not wait 21 day of tying up my phone for DSL. That evening one year ago, I walked to office depot Comcast install kit and modem. I was to have Comcast HSI as soon as I got home but due to a problem Comcast told me it will take 14 hours to fix, it ended up taking Comcast 1.5 hours, the time it took me to go out for a pizza and beer.
The only way I might consider going back to Verizon is FIOS to my apartment complex or if Comcast continues to jack up the cost of cable.


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US

Cable is dead...

... without deploying DOCSIS 3.0 ASAP. Fiber will take care of the mainstream and high-end users whereas DSL will take care of entry level and other mainstream users.
The cable companies are already getting buttfucked by the telcos, due to their greed (cable's missed invesetment/development cycle). Although now many of them slowly upgrading their core network but the raising number of high bitrate-based HD channels they have to carry on the same network and the pressure from faster technologies like the imminent ADS2+ startup together cable means providers are under very heavy fire - unfortunately most of them (see relevant recent statements from Charter's or Comcast's boss) still think it's OK, all they need to do is rape the public discourse again (see the two-tiered internet idea, unfortunately telcos are partners in this), so they can keep cashing on without bigger investment.
In the meantime US is now out of the first 10 countries of the world when it comes to broadband - 5-6 years and we degraded behind Europe or Asia. Great work, thanks.

hyperon
Premium
join:2006-02-04
Bastrop, TX

reply to bignate
Re: cost

said by bignate See Profile :

the Introductory prices for dsl lately are great, here in texas basic dsl starts at $12.95
This price only applies to new customers and with a 1 year contract. After the year is up it will go up to $34 a month.

»https://swot.sbc.com/swot/dslMassMarketC···YNAMICIP


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US

reply to dadkins
Re: One problem...

said by dadkins See Profile :

... until telcos can beat the distance limitations, cable will be better.

If some ISP would get off the stick and start pushing REAL fiber(think symetrical), then we will forever be doomed to yawnfest speeds.

There are ISPs with real connections out there, too bad they are small pockets.
In most of the cities cable access is being oversold multiple times and since it's a shared connection - unlike DSL or fiber -, your speed heavily depends on how many of your neighbors are using it with you. Check out those NYC topics in the Roadrunner forum...
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