BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Is this a lie about many exploits unpublished ? Im guessing not and I think we may say more malware for the mac os as it gets bigger.
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AquaVita
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join:2003-01-14
Garland, TX | Heh
Oh shit, countdown to flame-war of total death..
5...4...3..2..
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Phucker
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join:2001-09-12
Reno, NV
clubs: | duck!!!! |
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gate1975mlm
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join:2001-09-30
Philadelphia, PA
2 edits | Mac no better then windows!
Mac is no better then windows! The only reason windows has so many more virus,spyware on pc is because a lot more people use windows vs mac. If everyone had a mac then it would be just as bad as windows. |
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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs: | reply to Phucker
Re: Heh
said by Phucker  :duck!!!! AND PROUD OF IT!! |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Anything made by man can be hacked
"According to gwerdna, the hacked Mac could have been better protected, but it would not have stopped him because he exploited a vulnerability that has not yet been made public or patched by Apple."
Let's face it, any lock, any security measure, any operating system made by a human can be hacked by another human.
And I'm not saying this from any "fanboy" standpoint. Windows can be hacked, OS X can be hacked. Period.
Anyone who believes otherwise has their head in the sand.. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| reply to AquaVita
Re: Heh
said by AquaVita :Oh shit, countdown to flame-war of total death.. 5...4...3..2.. Mushroom cloud...... |
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| how 'bout that...
that's funny stuff... all of 1/2 an hour, ha. Still, that's better than the 10 minutes or so that they say a windows box is automatically compromised with spyware/virus' etc...
I would also say that osx is still a little better off security wise because of how it's set up initially. |
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Anonymous
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join:2004-06-01
IA
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1 edit |  Great
This just made my day 
I hope they publish the exploits and made Apple freaks cry.
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wilburyan
join:2002-08-01
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Re: Mac no better then windows!
Actually I might go as far as to say Windows xp sp2 is better than OS X .
Most of the world uses Windows, because of this exploits are found and used on a widespread basis, and because of this Microsoft is forced to constantly update it's product.
Macs are less common and much less frequently targeted (for now). OS X has more security holes in it in comparison to Windows XP, but seldom do hackers try to exploit a Mac OS box.
Normally when a virus author writes a virus they are looking to have maximum impact. If your shooting for bragging rights, which hacker would you rather be? The one that writes a windows virus that affects millions of computers around the world? Or one that writes a Mac virus and infects 5 or 10 thousand? |
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON | reply to amungus
Re: how 'bout that...
Who says what?
All of those studies are done on a Windows XP SP1 or less machine.
Considering the advances in said OS those studies are a moot point. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| reply to amungus
said by amungus :that's funny stuff... all of 1/2 an hour, ha. Still, that's better than the 10 minutes or so that they say a windows box is automatically compromised with spyware/virus' etc... Putting out the challenge was pretty funny. It almost guarantees a successful attack will be launched. Anonymity is one of the best ways to maintain security. Begging to be hacked is one of the worst. As MAC systems become more widespread, the chance of widespread attacks grows.
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Phucker
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join:2001-09-12
Reno, NV
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| Only a matter of time
"The only thing which has kept Mac OS X relatively safe up until now is the fact that the market share is significantly lower than that of Microsoft Windows or the more common UNIX platforms.… If this situation was to change, in my opinion, things could be a lot worse on Mac OS X than they currently are on other operating systems," said Archibald at the time.
It is only a matter of time...............
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GilbertMark
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join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ
·Cox HSI
2 edits | Hmm
According to slashdot: "The security contest also allowed people to have local access via SSH, so that had a lot to do with the crack."
Well that was a stupid thing to do. Why would you allow this to be open? That was a stupid idea. I don't leave SSH open to the world. Pointless contest.
Anything made by a man can be taken apart by another man. Nothing is completely secure or can foil reverse engineering.
Maybe we should have a contest to make the most secure OS instead. |
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Phucker
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join:2001-09-12
Reno, NV
clubs: | well that just wouldnt be as much fun.
It just makes too much sense anyways. |
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rgillis70
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join:2002-12-30
Herndon, VA
| reply to amungus
Re: how 'bout that...
Actually - there was a NAT challenge in the Security forum - the last step of which was to take a SP2 Windows box and stick it online. It was not hacked.
Proof is in the pudding - with the SP2 firewall on - the machine fared just as well as sitting behind a router. |
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scavio
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join:2001-07-14
Melmac
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| SSH
They gave him local access over SSH... it is not enabled by default. The competition has little to no value for the home user, but those who look to use a Mac as a server might get a wake up call. I'd really like to see if anyone would have any luck via default config. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Something wrong with his SSH setup, not his OSX
Read the details of the contest - »rm-my-mac.wideopenbsd.org.nyud.net:8090/
Summarized, he states that he was giving out SSH accounts to anyone who wanted them (I read somewhere that in OSX you have to explicitly turn on SSH, could someone confirm this?). The box was not hacked because of defects in Mac OSX, but rather security holes that manifested themselves after a user got in via SSH.
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volntn
The Volunteer
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join:2002-01-05
Cleveland, TN
clubs: | Told Ya so. :)
Now if we can only get the Mods here to put the stories about Linux and Firefox exploits on the front page we all can be happy.
Where's the arrogant Mac users comments. |
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ThirdShifter
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join:2002-03-16
Vernon Rockville, CT | reply to scavio
Re: SSH
Shit happens.. also mc osx got hacked.. so its a good thing to know you can never be to careful. It'll keep apple on their toes.
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