rexbinary
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join:2005-01-26
Plano, TX | Greedy Investors
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
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join:2002-09-23 | Will this reduce speeds?
That is the only question. |
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Cjaiceman
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join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
 ·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| Quality vs. Cost
So, basically they are sacrificing quality for cost... Do I smell another OOL?
On the other hand, it could also speed up the install time so more people get done per day, resulting in a faster rollout.
Personally, I would choose to have CAT6 or CAT6e prerun though the house then have verizon come out and just make the connection to the house. But thats my 2 cents.... (and I'm pretty sure no one really cares ) |
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aj007
join:2006-03-02
00000 | Does this mean its still fiber to the home/apartment,?
Does this mean its still fiber to the home/apartment and so they will just use the existing coaxial in the home if available?
Im confused because it makes it sound like FTTP is turning into HFC instead. |
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paisp
join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA
| reply to Cjaiceman
Re: Quality vs. Cost
said by Cjaiceman  :So, basically they are sacrificing quality for cost... Do I smell another OOL? On the other hand, it could also speed up the install time so more people get done per day, resulting in a faster rollout. Personally, I would choose to have CAT6 or CAT6e prerun though the house then have verizon come out and just make the connection to the house. But thats my 2 cents.... (and I'm pretty sure no one really cares ) That's cool. So, pay to have your house wired with CAT6. But if a provider can supply the same service over existing RG6, (which is fantastic cabling), then why spend more money just because people "want" it, thereby making it cost us all more money.
I'm not bashing you, but think about where we all were just not too long ago. A T1 was $3000.00 and broadband was hardly available to anyone. Now we're getting a little piggish, the American way I guess.
I'm willing to bet if Verizon ran fiber to people's TV and made the service free people would still find something to gripe about.
Bottom line, surfing websites, downloading email, and watching porn will all be just as fast over RG6 as it would be delivered another way locally in the house.
Speaking of bitching, I can't wait to see the next article "Cablo Co's Complaining About Verizon Using Their Coax In Customer's Homes". I don't recall seeing a check from comcrap to wire my house with coax. But they'll bitch, I'm sure. |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | reply to aj007
Re: Does this mean its still fiber to the home/apartment,?
Well.. so they just become another Cable company,,,, So what is the future here... I tought Fiber will bring us many other benefits in the future but now... what? |
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paisp
join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA
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said by aj007 :Does this mean its still fiber to the home/apartment and so they will just use the existing coaxial in the home if available? Im confused because it makes it sound like FTTP is turning into HFC instead. It just means they will use the existing wiring inside the home if its there, and most likely if the coax type is RG6. They ain't gonna use RG58 I'm sure. |
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to paisp
Re: Quality vs. Cost
I don't think this changes a whole heck of a lot.
Verizon is still going to run fiber to the ONT mounted at your house (if I read the article correctly), they're just going to change the way the signal is distributed through the house.
Quite frankly, I would rather run my own cat 5 in my house, and I don't think the TV service is coming to my town any time soon. Franchise issues.
Of course, I have a ranch house with an open basement, so running cat 5 in my basement is a breeze.. |
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Topmounter
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join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | reply to Shamayim
Re: Will this reduce speeds?
I'm not sure how to answer that, considering the FANBOI purported speed of FIOS is "OMG!INFINITY!".
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ChrisPC
join:2002-01-30
Hermitage, TN | reply to paisp
Re: Quality vs. Cost
The American way is piggish? Then how come Sweden, Japan, etc., have 100MB and we only have 6 or 8? |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| reply to rexbinary
Re: Greedy Investors
said by rexbinary :I'm glad I got fiber to the curb before the greedy investors start screwing things up. If it wasn't for the so-called greedy investors you wouldn't have Fios at all.
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| I'd like to see...
the impatient investors go out and lay the fiber themselves and see that it isn't an overnight deal. This takes YEARS to get going in alot of areas.
Oh well..thats investors for ya |
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aj007
join:2006-03-02
00000 | reply to chemaupr
Re: Does this mean its still fiber to the home/apartment,?
If its not FTTP, then whats the difference between Verizon and the Cable company which also will use high speed delivery over coaxial?
Either its Fiber to the premises or its not. |
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paisp
join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA
| reply to ChrisPC
Re: Quality vs. Cost
said by ChrisPC :The American way is piggish? Then how come Sweden, Japan, etc., have 100MB and we only have 6 or 8? I'm not really sure. I'm sure the economics are different though... such as law suits, corporate fraud, national debt, taxes, etc. Its all relative don't you think? I think this all affects us all individually. Maybe if we took a good atom-bombing from Japan and then let them rebuild our country brand new, then maybe they'd have less money to splash around on getting people 100MB of useless bandwidth, for example.
But a better question is this. What would you do today differently than you would normally if you were suddenly given 100MB?
Don't you think also that when we see 100MB, and Japan has Gigabit, then we'd all complain too? Human nature.. especially in a country where we have everything in an instant.
Oh, by the way isn't fuel costs over there three or four times the cost of what we pay? Its all relative... |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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said by ChrisPC :The American way is piggish? Then how come Sweden, Japan, etc., have 100MB and we only have 6 or 8? because those countries actually think the internet is important for the future and have either ensured there is competition or have used government money.
This is in stark contrast to the U.S. where nothing technical (except weapons systems) is of interest to the current government and the telecom industry is being allowed to turn back into an unregulated monopoly/duopoly. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH :I don't think this changes a whole heck of a lot. Verizon is still going to run fiber to the ONT mounted at your house (if I read the article correctly), they're just going to change the way the signal is distributed through the house. This is a good thing. At least fiber to the wall.
said by N3OGH :Quite frankly, I would rather run my own cat 5 in my house, and I don't think the TV service is coming to my town any time soon. Franchise issues. Of course, I have a ranch house with an open basement, so running cat 5 in my basement is a breeze.. I agree with you here BUT this is a site mostly for people who know either the advantages of this and/or know how to do it. Newer houses are being wired up for this but older houses with those that do not know will be the issue.
I know for sure that if a tech came up to a house with a distribution system in place, his dad would be a whole lot easier. |
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sgossard34
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join:2004-08-26
Philadelphia, PA
| TV only?
I could be wrong but doesn't this only affect the TV side of FIOS? Data would still be run through CAT 5e from the ONT to the router and then to each computer. As far as I was aware all the current TV installs were converted from CAt 5e to COAX through the converter box anyway. So what has really changed with this decision?
Please correct me if I am wrong. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Greedy Investors
said by TKJunkMail :said by rexbinary :I'm glad I got fiber to the curb before the greedy investors start screwing things up. If it wasn't for the so-called greedy investors you wouldn't have Fios at all. What a frikkin BS.
If it would be up to the investors, we'd be still paying around $50 for dialup, tied to VZ-only $60-70 for local POTS w/ 500 local minutes. |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to sgossard34
Re: TV only?
I think they're going to run the nim's to other rooms that have cable. Of course MOCA puts everything on the same broadcast network. That could eventually be fun for customers.
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tonyfer2
join:2002-08-14
Elizabeth, NJ
clubs:  | reply to Cjaiceman
Re: Quality vs. Cost
i have ool 30-2 service and i get 28945download and 1.985up day and night i have n\p whit ool .... now whan i had verizon dsl my home move 3.000 feet 3 dif time ... |
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