EasyDoesIt
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1 edit | Shameful!
$1.4M for the attorney, $49 for the clients. Unless the attorney(s) worked full time on the case for literally years and years, they haven't earned such ridicilous sums of money. The system is broken badly. |
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birdfeedr
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Unless you have to somehow prove mail was blocked.
Sure, I couldn't get email from Asia AND Europe.
Plus Verizon charged me a termination fee when I canceled.
Oops! Never mind, I switched over to Speakeasy before the action dates.
Actually, class action lawsuits are for the lawyers. The settlement tends to be negligible for the class members. Sort of like clipping a coupon to get cents off you next Verizon bill. |
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KeepOnRockin
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So, Verizon's spam filters were not perfect and sometimes blocked the wrong thing. Show me any filters from any ISP or software that are 100% perfect.
A class-action lawsuit? Give me a break 
I think Verizon should have just let these customers recieve all the spam and not filtered anything at all!
This proposed settlement is bogus!  |
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rpeAMP
join:2000-12-02
San Antonio, TX
1 edit | reply to EasyDoesIt
Re: Shameful!
said by EasyDoesIt  :$1.4M for the attorney, $49 for the clients. Unless the attorney(s) worked full time on the case for literally years and years, they haven't earned such ridicilous sums of money. The system is broken badly. I used to think the same way until I worked for an attorney for a summer as an intern. Granted, he was a defense attorney, so he wasn't out to get anyone necessarily, but the man worked countless hours.
If he ever made a fee that large a good portion of it (over half) went to administrative fees such as filing fees, travel expenses, experts, testimonies, payroll for other employees, the list goes on and on. That was just for one case, and he may have dozens currently open.
I'm not saying he didn't make a good salary, he did; however, he worked incredibly long hours, day and night.
I'm sure this isn't the case for all attorneys, and some make incredible margins on the amount of work they do, but I just wanted to offer some contrast to the anti-attorney sentiment. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
1 edit | But Verizon PROMISED they wouldn't interfere
So, umm, once again we see that Verizon is not trustworthy. On the one hand, they were blocking spam, which they call a good thing to do. But wait, they also blocked legitimate e-mail.
Didn't Verizons Mouthpiece Organization (aka The US Telecom Association cover this already?)
"Have we sought to control or restrict the Internet?" Walter McCormick, president and CEO of the U.S. Telecom Association, which represents a wide swath of the industry, asked the senators. "No, we have not. We have instead invested, grown and increased the scale and the scope of the Internet."
Lets see now, you blocked e-mail. Hmm.. I think that falls under the word 'RESTRICT'. Oh, you did it for our own good then? Why, I'm sure that's ok.. NOT. You lie Verizon, and your mouthpiece propaganda organizations lie for you. Their profits are predicated on the concept of control, thus they will ALWAYS restrict and control what they think they can get away with. Hopefully, Verizon loses billions for this travesty.
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| I often didn't recieve email from Portugal, but I used a Yahoo soon after so no big deal. Guess I'll file the claim and see what happens.
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SuperJoker
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1 edit | $1.4 million, Gee whiz
$1.4 million, Gee whiz, They'll never even notice It or miss It now that Verizon has raised $3.7 Billion in cash from the sale of some foreign telecom assets It had.  What do the users get? Maybe $3.50 or so. Verizon is getting off lightly for blocking legitimate email traffic. 
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Re: Sign me right up!
said by birdfeedr :Unless you have to somehow prove mail was blocked. Yes, how do you prove you DIDN'T get something. Most people won't even bother trying to get anything out of this settlement. The only ones who will make out will be the lawyers involved.
And I give Verizon credit for actually trying to do something about SPAM. No system is perfect, but at least they tried.
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dadkins
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1 edit | LOL!
Nevermind. |
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oliphant
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Corona, CA
| Bitchen...
Do we get to look forward to a new Class Action Lawsuit Recovery Fee on our bills?
That is typically how telcos like to itemize their overhead.
This is just more reason why there shouldn't be class action suits. Each user should have to prove their own damages...essentially opting in, rather that the default opting out requirement.
This nonsense just costs customers money and makes the greedy blood sucking lawyers rich.
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | can i sue cause
I get spam this shouldnt even be a case these people should be happy they didnt get spam |
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nixen
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Re: Sign me right up!
said by TKJunkMail :said by birdfeedr :Unless you have to somehow prove mail was blocked. Yes, how do you prove you DIDN'T get something. Most people won't even bother trying to get anything out of this settlement. The only ones who will make out will be the lawyers involved. Depends. If he ruling judge actually wants members of the class to get their due, he would force Verizon to turn over their mail or other logs to determine what got blocked. This, of course, assumes that it was blocked sufficiently late in the SMTP conversation to establish intended recipients and not just blocked at the edge routers.
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Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | reply to EasyDoesIt
Re: Shameful!
$1.4 million isnt a lot of money for an attorney fee. Attorneys that work on class action law suits some times get up to $20 million. |
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA
| reply to odreian615
Re: can i sue cause
said by odreian615 :I get spam this shouldnt even be a case these people should be happy they didnt get spam verizon has no right to block email at all. If verizon wanted to help customers then they should give then option of turning spam filter on and also ability to add rules to spam filters. Failure to do that verizon is guilty as charged |
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | reply to oliphant
Re: Bitchen...
to hard to spread word to everyone. Welcome to our legal system. |
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oliphant
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Corona, CA | What's to spread? Those damaged should be aware that they were damaged...those that weren't aware I guess weren't damaged very much.
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA
| said by oliphant :What's to spread? Those damaged should be aware that they were damaged...those that weren't aware I guess weren't damaged very much. irrelevent, if you were damaged you deserve right to get compensation. It don't matter how much you got damaged all that matters that you did. One of the person that was blocked maybe was send really important email that person wasn't even aware of and it got blocked by verizon |
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hopeflicker
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Long Beach, CA | reply to ylen131
Re: can i sue cause
Ylen, have you thought about becoming a lawyer??
Just a thought.
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ylen131
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Canoga Park, CA
| said by hopeflicker :Ylen, have you thought about becoming a lawyer?? Just a thought. actually yes, i maybe will go to law school in next couple of years |
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oliphant
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3 edits | reply to ylen131
Re: Bitchen...
Hardly irrelevant because all damages must be representable in a monetary value otherwise there is nothing to sue for. The fact that they were damaged isn't enough. Point being, HOW MUCH compensation as each individual is damaged differently if at all. One person not getting an email from a friend would not be equally damaged as someone not receiving their employment contract thus losing a job or something.
The ONLY relevance in court is how much you were damaged. Just because you didn't get an email, doesn't mean you were damaged to the point of compensation. IOW, not getting an email from a friend is worth $0 in damages. It doesn't mean it wasn't an inconvenience, but that inconvenience has no value unless the damaged individual can prove the value of the email.
There should be no class of so-called damaged people and a rich lawyer. Everyone should have to prove their case and Verizon should only have to pay out to those individuals who proved their damages individually.
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