kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
1 edit | Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
Given the geographic and demographic diversity of our nation, the US is doing exceptionally well," For God's sake, what kind of fuckin' bold-faced liar is this? I understand that he's the top dog of one of the most rotten corrupt agencies of the country but seriously: is there anybody out there who believes this shit???
The whole country is ridden by local monopolies, and despite the fact that over 80% of the US population live in metropolitan area, we have miserable broadband market conditions. |
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Harddrive
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join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT
| There is more the FCC can do.
"There is still more we can do to encourage competition and speed broadband deployment,"
yeah, like have the telcos and cable companies stop the 3 "L's", lobbying, litigation and lying.
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Techie714
join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA
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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
said by kamm  :is there anybody out there who believes this shit???
Yes, unfortunately the ill informed general public, and many dumb politicians. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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Re: There is more the FCC can do.
said by Harddrive :lobbying, litigation and lying. Odd that this is the same current modus operandi of the
**AA's as well. |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
| Is it really their fault?
start of political rant ---
I am hesitant to put blame where others are undoubtably too quick to place it. I think the problem here is that we, as Americans, have forgotten to act as checks on our government. Then, why is there less than steller innovation in America than in centuries past? We have not proactively demanded what we deserve, what we need, and what we should be expecting. Remember, we were (at once) the leaders in technology, but more recently, we have become too involved in more trivial aspects of uselessness.
The general public has become riddled with the stench of idiocy and care more about William Hung and American Idol than those who control our government and act illegally * cough * Jack Abramoff.
If you really want that one gigabit connection present in Asian countries, make it known to those who can actually act and make a difference. Don't bitch about corrupt politicians, etc; do something about it.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
 ·Optimum Online
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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
This is a Bush Appointed idiot..
Everything he says just pick the opposite..
Works with everyone so far.
ie. apparently no on can tell the truth.
Verizon deadlining non affluent homes.. Hog wash!
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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Re: Is it really their fault?
It is much more than that.
Customer service means nothing now. Instead of competition, companies look for domination. Why compete when you can buy out your competition.
Add to that the monopoly or duopoly of high speed internet service, you see how innovation is only as close as the next competitor. Comcast raises speeds, so far, only in areas with Verizon FIOS and for the same price. I live in an area that has 2 cable companies and the prices are better when I lived in a one cable company area.
It is much more than political and both sides have done "questionable" things. |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
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join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA
| reply to packetscan
Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it? Verizon is just hitting the communities that can afford it and have somewhat of a demand for it. It's well-known that people on welfare have better things to worry about than whether to have dial-up or fios, or even have a computer at all. I find what they're doing usual business, they're trying to make money on an extremely high-priced investment. They can't do it all at once, they need to find some demand, and the demand for a 40 dollar product is usually in middle-to-high income areas. Face it, money is the way to go for corporations.
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jhboricua
ExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN
clubs: | I'm soo dissapointed
Almost an hour and no comments from the corporate apologists?
Come on!!! I we all need more delusionals 'facts' posted. Martin's are not enough. |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
1 edit | reply to Insder
Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
"Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it?"
Thank you for your racist / discriminatory comments move along now.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to jhboricua
Re: I'm soo dissapointed
You mean Tjunk/fuberguy/etc astroturfs?  |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
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join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA
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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
Low-income. Okay, let's put this in definition form. It usually means it's an area that has a high crime rate (usually), many people unemployed, and many people on welfare. This isn't racism (I never went against one race, get it right please), nor is it anything else. I'm stating that they don't roll out in communities that they don't think can afford it, using state/federal statistics I assume, just for that reason. If they can't afford the product, why roll it out for a few users. I'm sure they need a good chunk of a city signed up to start profiting from the high-priced install pricing/fiber roll-out costs.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ | reply to jhboricua
Re: I'm soo dissapointed
It's shift change at Astroturf Inc.
Give them a few minutes to sign in and get situated. It might be the BBR desk's job to fill the coffeemaker and add the LSCrazy to it, too. |
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Techie714
join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA
1 edit | Yea, things are great
U.S. is just rocketing along......LOL |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
said by packetscan : Thank you for your racist comments move along now. Apparently you're the one who equates "low income" with "black". Who's the racist again ?? |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
1 edit | reply to Insder
I don't care if an area is low income they deserve the same services as those in affluent areas.. It's the cost of doing business.
Racism / discrimination is not a justifiable business practice.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
4 edits | reply to Hall
I never said anything of the sort..
Take your generalizations and shove off!
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This is the problem with the education system in this country.
Racism isn't a black and white thing. Racism isn't a green and blue thing. It's about discriminating against someone because of where they live, work, how they eat.
Get an education then come back and post some serious content on the matter.
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soulcatch6
join:2005-05-16
Tucson, AZ
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said by packetscan :"Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it?" Thank you for your racist comments move along now. Exactly what about Insider's post was racial? Or are you (packetscan) suggesting that all individuals who live in low income areas are minorities? Or that all welfare recipients are minorities?
Seems to me that insider's post was very factual and made great business sense. But since it is so easy to interject the anti-bush propoganda you liberals like to spew without any sort of proof behind it, I guess we should all just eat the cost. Keep that tin foil hat handy, I think you are going to need it come November.
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA
1 edit | reply to packetscan
Racism, as defined by wikipedia, is "Racism refers to a belief system that advocates discriminating against people based on a perceived or ascribed "race"". I never stated any kind of minority. I understand that Verizon needs to rollout all areas, they get this too. The problem here is, this isn't telephone over copper, where the infrastructure is there. They need to do all new fiber optic cables, which is a high-priced job. If the investors cannot expect a profit soon, or even at all, the whole project is gone. They need to do this in areas that will buy it, and even do a triple-play if they're lucky. They can't roll it out, and have low percentage of the town that CAN afford it, get it. Also, I do not see you complaining about users of DSL that are past 18,000 feet, and thus cannot get DSL. Large parts of low-income towns without a nearby DSLAM are like this. It's all business, and since FIOS isn't yet government regulated like telephone over copper, it's Verizon's call. I agree with them in the sense that they can make a very good profit in higher-income areas with more users to subscribe. It's not any type of racism (never mentioned race either), it's all about who can and cannot afford it. Verizon looks at statistics, just like I can, and I'm sure they decide where to roll out based on subscriber base. So go shove your racist accusations somewhere else, because it's sure as hell not wanted here.
Edit: Add in a few missed words, for clarity.
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Spudge_Boy
join:2004-09-17
Orange, CA | reply to soulcatch6
What does not screwing poor people have to do with being liberal you prick.
You seem like you need a tinfoil hat. |
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