Anonymous
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IA | Not a good deal
That's expensive and there is no way they can justify that. |
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DaSneaky1D
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The Lou | said by article :
Comcast has more than 200,000 VoIP customers
I beg to differ
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bamabrad
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Port Orange, FL | LOOKOUT!
REAL competition is coming to town! |
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Carl
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Krotz Springs, LA
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| Oh my
Not all Wal-Mart Electronics employees are bad, but the ones in my local store are a complete nightmare. Great, this is something else for them to misinform the technophobic customer on. Like the time they told a friend of mine that a 1GB iPod could hold 10,000 songs.
Again, not all WM employees are bad. Some are quite good.
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KeepOnRockin
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Beaverton, OR
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| Win-Win
It looks like a win-win deal for both Walmart and Comcast.
Walmart will sell a popular brand name in broadband and Comcast will most likely gain a lot of new customers.
It's a good thing  |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | Lookie there
BMWs at Wal*Mart. Whaddya know. Them folks in Springdale are real smart, yup.
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TKJunkMail
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|  Wal-Mart a "PREMIUM" retailer??
Hey don't get me wrong, Wal-Mart provides a good inexpensive service with their stores. But I had to laugh when I read Comcast's PR release about how Wal-Mart is a premium retailer.
This announcement marks the latest in a series of Comcast agreements with premium retailers.
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cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | more money
they charge more if you dont have there cable service |
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Carl
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Krotz Springs, LA | and this is related to the story HOW? |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
1 edit | said by Carl  :and this is related to the story HOW? And it's not related HOW? Price is a issue with a lot of people.
Comcast execs have scoffed at indie VoIP providers with a $55 unbundled price point (see complete pdf Comcast VoIP pricing sheet), which is intended to compete first with Qwest POTS.
See above? It's part of the article. So it has to with pricing as well. |
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dadkins
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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"... a $55 unbundled price point"
What don't you understand about that terminology?
Since I DO have Comcast HSI & TV, it would only cost me $39.95 per month. 
If you have:
Comcast Cable AND Comcast High-Speed Internet ..............................................$39.95/mo.
Comcast Cable OR Comcast High-Speed Internet ................................................$44.95/mo.
Comcast Digital Voice ONLY...................................................................................$54.95/mo.
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Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Win-Win
More like a win-win-lose deal. The customers are the ones who lose because of comcast outrageous VOIP prices ($50 for stand alone service??????) and walmarts notoriously bad service. |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| reply to dadkins
Re: more money
said by dadkins :"... a $55 unbundled price point" What don't you understand about that terminology? Since I DO have Comcast HSI & TV, it would only cost me $39.95 per month. If you have: Comcast Cable AND Comcast High-Speed Internet ..............................................$39.95/mo. Comcast Cable OR Comcast High-Speed Internet ................................................$44.95/mo. Comcast Digital Voice ONLY...................................................................................$54.95/mo. And TW is "testing" VoIP right now. Can't wait to see how much. If it's to much, might go with another VoIP company. Been looking at Packet8 but who knows. |
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Carl
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join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA | reply to Cheese
Sorry. Thought it was a user complaining. Back to work for me! |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
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Re: Not a good deal
Mediacom, for the record, isn't all cheery either you know. Their bundled price requires "family" cable (a term that should be looked at anyway) to get the bundle price. At least comcast, on THIS one, only requires a video service.
Comcast offers voip on three price ranges:
$54: unbundled
$45: with cable or HSI
$39: with both cable and HSI
Many customers already have two services.
Nothing personal, but I've used MC phone at several locations, and I wasn't impressed one bit. I have vonage and it sound better.
My point about this post is that it's about what you are getting for that money. Yes, indie sells voip service less expensive than even does MC-CC, Comcast and TWC are up there in their price. But as the story shows, cable voip service is still dominating the market. Wonder why?
It still boils down to a few things:
- Trust in reliability. If something goes wrong, with a provider based voip, you can call for repair and they fix it. Indie, you fix it yourself. It may be for some, but not for all.
- value for the money. Is the quality there to justify the price?
- Ongoing customer. People are more likely to buy from a provider they alreayd do business with. Yes, there are people here that live here to bitch, moan, and complain about their cable service (same with phone) but you know, in the end, it's a VERY SMALL minority that does. Many people are happy with their services and if not happy, they are at least satisfied. Not everyone has issues with their cable or phone providers.
If you want the real answers, you need to look out side your own worlds to see why cable can sell their voip at the prices they are and survive.
There's also one other point. Many people for years, like myself, are used to $300.00 per month telephone bills with all the long distance calling that gets made. $39.99 or even $54.99 IS A DEAL compared to that price point. Sadly too, for Vonage, their price points can actually hurt them in areas where they don't realize. Some people look at phone service for $24.99 and wonder what the catch is... or the old "it's too cheap, there's got to be something wrong with this - no one can sell service that inexpensive and provide something good"... and quite honestly, that group is correct. It's not the same and it's not as good as traditional phone and it has a long way to becoming that. Since indie voip is only as good as the broadband connection it runs on, there is no way they can claim quality on their service.
It was said best in another post right around this one...
with over 51% of the market and the growth they are seeing (200,000 since launch) ... yes, they can justify it.. and are. |
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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1 edit | reply to Carl
Re: more money
said by Carl :Sorry. Thought it was a user complaining. Back to work for me! ? A user complaining? You work for Comcast? Or for Walmart? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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Re: Oh my
... and what does Wal-Mart employees and iPods have to do with the topic at hand? I kinda failed to make a connection.
Wal Mart employees don't have to do much other than scan the box for the Motorola SB 5120 modem. Notice the modem used? It's really HSI service. This is for existing customers anyway. If you wanted voip, which is a 'stoopid' move, you're going to be swapped for an Arris modem anyway.
This is going to be no different than the way it is in Best Buy or Circuit City. If you want any other services, you will most likely be offered an 800 number to comcast to complete any other sale you may want.
This deal is no different than they way people use eBay by listing a product or two so they can place a link on their auction back to their own website where they REALLY want people to go.
The one thing I can say good about this offer is that you can buy the SB5120 for an "everyday low price" of $59.97.. Gotta love those Wal-Mart Pricing schemes. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
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Re: Not a good deal
#1: "People are more likely to buy from a provider they alreayd do business with."
#2: "Many people are happy with their services and if not happy, they are at least satisfied."
#3: "see why cable can sell their voip at the prices they are and survive."
#4: "used to $300.00 per month telephone bills with all the long distance calling that gets made. $39.99 or even $54.99 IS A DEAL compared to that price point."
#5: "Since indie voip is only as good as the broadband connection it runs on, there is no way they can claim quality on their service."
#6: "with over 51% of the market and the growth they are seeing"
In response:
#1: I only have 1 cable provider, so I have to do business with them if I want certain services (broadband)
#2: See #1. Even if I'm unhappy, see #1
#3: Because I have to go through my cable provider for IP Access. (too far for DSL)
#4: Your telephone company was a monopoly too. See #1, replace cable with telco provider.
#5: See #1. If comcast wants Vonage to suck, the will make it suck. If comcast looses too many people to Vonage, vonage will begin to suck.
#6: See #1.
So, the REASON comcast can charge that much, and get away.. drum roll please... MONOPOLY ! And it will only get worse as comcast actively degrades everyone else to ensure their dominance.
Solution: Net Neutrality.
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Obliteration
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join:2005-09-18
Somewhere | The price the charge for the service isn't justified...
Vonage for $25 unlimited here sounds BETTER than POTS with SBC. Comcast doesn't even offer phone service or VOIP here to begin with.
I doubt their service will be of such quality to justify the price they want to charge for it. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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Re: Win-Win
Please tell me/us how it's an outrageous price for telephone service when many people across the nation are used to phone bills over the $100.00 range?
When making comments like this, you really should look at the whole picture and not just your world.
You're obviously uninformed too. The price for 'unbundled' phone service is $54.00, not $50.00.
There IS one thing for certain... YOU don't have to buy it, so for YOU it's a win win situation! For others that have been paying more, have been screwed by their local phone companies, the $54.00 unbundled, to $39.99 tripple play price is a win win for them.
Ask many verizon people that have the freedom unlimited plans if they are happy with their $64.00 per month phone service and see what they say?
I am not saying that cable phone (the voip version that is) is the best thing in the world.. but when compared to choices...? It's a better deal than many land line phones on prices, and has better quaility and overall value than many indie voips do when comparing ALL the service points together. (Remember, when you talk about over all value and service, you ahve to look at who is going to fix it.. who is going to install it, and other points... FOR THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER - Again, think OUTSIDE your/and this world!) |
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