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Comments on news posted 2006-04-19 18:34:59: Utopia is one of the nation's largest wholesale muni-fiber deployments - via which users can get 8-15Mbps symmetrical fiber for $35-$45 dollars through AT&T or providers like MStar. ..

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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
I bet they still have 20%+ margins

buahahahahahahhahahaha..

laugh.. oh.. ehhmm.. sorry.


TKJunkMail
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 Comcast offering this deal for last 8 months in Utah

At least Comcast is consistent. They have been offering the same deal since at least Aug 2005:
»Comcast Vs. Utopia
"The standard price in Utah for Comcast’s internet service is $45.95 a month. Remarkably, the price for this same service in Midvale and Murray has been dropped to $29.95 with a one-year contract

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diehardspeed
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When I Dumped Comcast!

When I dumped Comcast and switched to Utopia when they asked for the reason I was leaving...

I said, "Because you refused to give me discounts before Utopia was available in my area. I did give you your chance to keep me as a customer NOW then."



Felt good about saying it too! That Cable/Internet bill really got on my nerves with how much they charged!

Comcast - $120/mo
4000/265 - inet
Digital Classic + DVR - (2 TV's total) *required for SCIFI

Utopia (MSTARMetro.net) - $85/mo
15000/15000 - inet
Digital Select - 2 TV's

Even if Comcast boosted the inet up to 8000/768 with the Digital Classic package for $90+/mo. It's still not as good a deal as you can get with MSTARMetro and Utopia!


Karl Bode
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Comcast offering this deal for last 8 months in Utah

Only Midvale and Murray back then, now the entire Utopia footprint.


en102
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reply to Ahrenl
Re: I bet they still have 20%+ margins

I only wish there was some competition here in So. Cal. (come on AT&T - get your fiber rolling). Even if I don't purchase it, competition will at least bring prices down (for a while).

Comcast would rather have customers at a somewhat reduced rate (still profitable, otherwise they'd pullout), than no customer at all.

JSRoman
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Callahan, FL
$99.00 is not only for fios areas

Philadelphia currently has the offer available and is set to come to other markets by the end of June/July.


en102
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reply to diehardspeed
Re: When I Dumped Comcast!

$45/month savings is a lot... and you're supporting your local community. Comcast is supporting investors.

Lets see - here in Los Angeles.
Unbundled services:
Local + LD (AT&T): ~$48 /month
DirecTv Plus: $55/month (3 tuners)
Internet Dsl Extreme: $32.19/month
Total Including taxes: $135.19

Comcast:
Vonage ($25 + taxes)
Digital Classic Plus: $59.95 /month (1 tuner) + taxes / fees
Comcast HSI: $42.95 / month + $3/month rental + taxes / fees
Total NOT including taxes: $127.90/month
Installation charges: TV: $29.99, HSI $9.95
And that's using Vonage for VoIP, as Comcr@p doesn't have it here yet.

RayW
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BAD UTOPIA!

Forcing a poor private industry to compete with 'government'.

(although I have never been able to figure out why a few people (mega dollar paid corporate heads) can dictate to many (the taxpaying voters). Oh, deeper pockets and less restrictions!)

Now, when will Utopia get to MY neighborhood, I am ready to jump from Qwest!
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marigolds
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Saint Louis, MO

Not a rare price reduction

There's nothing rare about this deal. There isn't even much good about this deal.

It is a short term promotional offer lasting 12 months and expiring at the end of the month. It does not include the price of standard analog either, so you can tack $46.60 on to the monthly rate. As well, there is no decrease in regular rates (which means you can lose the promotional rate if you have a late payment disconnect).

(If you go to the online site, Payson actually gets a better deal currently since they get digital cable for $24.95 and HSI for $19.95 bundled.)
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caimakale

join:2005-04-03
Riverton, UT
reply to Karl Bode
Re: Comcast offering this deal for last 8 months in Utah

I might have to call and check to see if it is the entire footprint area. I am in Riverton, but the build probably won't start for a couple more years. That would be great to get a decent discount now.


oliphant
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This will be the norm...

Predatory pricing is nothing new for Comcast (»'Discounted' Competition) and people laughed that the "AT&T" funded" study story of yesterday, but we see that they're obviously right. Wireline competition will bring down cable prices and force other changes to the cable business (unbundling).

Wish Comcast would offer this everywhere (don't offer it here in SoCal anyway) instead of engaging in predatory pricing but as wireline competitors like Verizon, AT&T and munis deploy, they'll have to offer it everywhere or lose their customers.
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TheGhost
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reply to RayW
Re: BAD UTOPIA!

But they are not competing with the government. Utopia only provides the infrastructure for others to compete. Problem is, Comcast lost it's last mile Duopoly.

Let the MUNIs provide the infrastructure - it has worked for roads, gas lines, electricity in some places - why should broadband / media be any different?

Zorglub

join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA

Exactly, the Bells and the cable companies' grip on the last mile allows them to gouge the customers on the services provided over that last mile. Utopia proves that opening up the broadband pipe to all providers is the only way to get real competition and lower prices.

Wait, that's what has been going on in Japan and other European countries for a while now...


Iridium
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reply to oliphant
Re: This will be the norm...

said by oliphant See Profile :

Predatory pricing is nothing new for Comcast (»'Discounted' Competition) and people laughed that the "AT&T" funded" study story of yesterday, but we see that they're obviously right. Wireline competition will bring down cable prices and force other changes to the cable business (unbundling).

Wish Comcast would offer this everywhere (don't offer it here in SoCal anyway) instead of engaging in predatory pricing but as wireline competitors like Verizon, AT&T and munis deploy, they'll have to offer it everywhere or lose their customers.
So Comcast bundles because most people in SoCal don't have a choice? Thats terrible. I hope other communities across the nation do what project UTOPIA is doing. We need a choice out here.
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MSauk
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you can add xmission as a provider offering the internet. Very solid

Lincoln99
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join:2005-03-24
Pleasant Grove, UT

Save us!

Save us! Nearly all of Comcast's customers are now being forced to subsidize Comcast's customers living in UTOPIA and iProvo cities in Utah at the $90/month rate.

Quick, somebody introduce some legislation to prevent this outrage.

Where are the valiant astroturf warriors when we really need them?


bassthumpa
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Austin, TX

reply to oliphant
Re: This will be the norm...

said by oliphant See Profile :

Predatory pricing is nothing new for Comcast (»'Discounted' Competition) and people laughed that the "AT&T" funded" study story of yesterday, but we see that they're obviously right. Wireline competition will bring down cable prices and force other changes to the cable business (unbundling).
Exactly... and it really shouldn't take any kind of study to convince people, it should be common sense. But who needs common sense when it's so easy to just pile on against the big bad telco, regardless of the issue at hand?
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Steve B

join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA

It's Obvious

Article after article comes out showing price reductions for customers where local incumbants are facing competition. Yet, the FCC/government seems to want to remove competition by allowing all these dam mergers and to quit forcing incumbants to share lines.


oliphant
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reply to Iridium
Re: This will be the norm...

They started bundling here (in my neighborhood) after they bought ATTB/MediaOne out. When they were AT&T Broadband there were no bundling requirements in our franchise and they let us keep our higher MediaOne upload speeds and they had great usenet servers. After Comcast bought them out those HSI subscribers without CATV saw a 33% price increase and now they won't sell the top HSI tiers to non-CATV subscribers (eg non-CATV subs can't get the 8Mb tier here) and they killed off ATTBi's usenet servers.

Verizon is deploying FIOS in a lot of local neighborhoods where I live out here in the sticks off I15. South Corona and Lake Elsinore are seeing deployments right now so we should have FIOS available late in the year. Given the sorry shape our local Comcast franchise is in with really bad service and the high prices...Comcast will have to act quickly to improve or lose even more customers.

I think FIOS here will get them to clean up their act and I hope they do. Service was awesome under ATTB and I wish Comcast would return to those days otherwise it would just permit Verizon FIOS to suck as well.
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oliphant
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reply to bassthumpa
Telco's have done their share of anti-muni BS; like I think it was Bellsouth that was threatening to fire everyone in a local call center if a local muni fiber plan was approved, but my neighborhood case it's an enemy of my enemy is my friend kinda thing.

If muni's and Verizon get cable to clean up their act where they are delivering bad service and if cable drops their prices, unbundles or gives great bundle deals and improves their service as a result, their new improvements will force the new competitors to keep up their services and keep prices low. When the munis, telcos, DBS and cable companies go to war, consumers win.

I certainly don't hope that our local Comcast is killed by Verizon FIOS. I just want my local Comcast franchise to get back to the great provider with reasonable prices that they used to be.
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