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Comments on news posted 2006-04-20 10:33:37: For a long time, owners of Verizon Wireless branded phones have complained that the firmware was crippled, forcing them to use Verizon's network (and incur data charges) if they wanted to move data. ..

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PhoenixDown
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Why not blue tooth

Isn't that the point of it?


sherman10570

join:2000-10-15
Pleasantville, NY
·Verizon FIOS


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You can uncripple most Verizon phones yourself...

People already use their own USB cables and software to access their phones. Check out:

»www.bitpim.org/
Open source software to access most LG phones (like my VX6000) and a few others

»www.rpiwireless.com/
Where I bought my USB cable (it charges my battery too)

- Sherman


grcore
New and Improved

join:2003-12-06
usa


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reply to PhoenixDown
Re: Why not blue tooth

"AftThat’s not all. OBEX, the service used to transfer data over Bluetooth, has been added to the phone’s list of Bluetooth services. This means that anyone with a Bluetooth dongle has the ability to transfer and retrieve photos, etc. from their phone for free."


yock
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Fairfield, OH

Confirmation?

The article comes without any quotes from Verizon and only links to some forum post (which seems filtered from my work internet connection). I need more concrete information before I go calling Verizon about this. I'm especially interested, considering I just got a RAZR V3c less than a month ago.
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fcisler
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Riverhead, NY

charging

Does anyone know if the RAZR V3c will charge off of USB, unlike my original RAZR V3?

by that i mean that I KNOW that mine charges off of USB - but ONLY if the USB host is windows, WITH their software (which isn't free). No drivers - no charging!

It's one of my biggest gripes about this phone. They ACTUALLY changes their version of the mini-usb spec to include another pin. My wall charger has this pin. If the phone dies - hope i have my charger. Once the phones dead, or 1 bar (of 5) left, USB will not charge it.

I think it's the absolutely most RIDICULOUS thing. My other phone charges via my set top Cablevision box via a USB data cable for *@#$&* sake!

Did i mention i hate all Motorola phones? especially nextel?


odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest


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Not to pump another site

but cellphoneforums.net will tell you everything on this issue in fact this is the sticky about the verizon razr here
»cellphoneforums.net/motorola/t19···ight=vc3
(oh yeah MPT is free but you didnt hear it from me )


Roundboy
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Drexel Hill, PA

E815

The motorola e815 has been crippled like this too..

Simple seem edits to the phone enabled this transfer for me via bluetooth.

check out howardforums.com ... you'll learn much.
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thebulldan

join:2005-06-13
Bridgeport, PA
Good point. Uncrippled - the E815 is awesome

I also have the USB wire and use tethered for EVDO access on my laptop. (Shhhhhhh)


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

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reply to grcore
Re: Why not blue tooth

I've had that with my AT&TWS Motorola V505 phone (yeah - they're out of business, that's how old the phone is!) from the factory.


cableties
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reply to Roundboy
Re: E815

howard's yes! And unrelated to the V3 and e815 yet very good info...
»www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710seem.html

wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
When will they uncripple tethering??

I pay for unlimited data service. Why is tethering different? Isn't that a data service also??

puritan


hatchet_ryda

join:2004-01-25
Beaumont, CA
another spot

Also motomodders.net has alot of info about modifying motorola phones and has a driver pack for the moto usb connection.

north7

join:2003-01-18
Scarsdale, NY

Nope, they didn't.

So far it appears that if you go from the .03 firmware to the .04 firmware you don’t get OBEX back.
OEX was in .02, Verizon completely removed OBEX from .03, .04 does not put it back.
If you have .03, flash to .02, then up to .04 you will have OBEX as .04 does not remove it.
Keep up with the saga here -
»www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=893475


cavemonkey50
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reply to yock
Re: Confirmation?

I'm sorry. I forgot to link to my evidence. I have updated the article with the link.
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roamer1
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 reply to grcore
Re: Why not blue tooth

said by grcore See Profile :

"AftThat’s not all. OBEX, the service used to transfer data over Bluetooth, has been added to the phone’s list of Bluetooth services. This means that anyone with a Bluetooth dongle has the ability to transfer and retrieve photos, etc. from their phone for free."
Only after being sued and having to refund lots of ETFs and take back used phones (V710) do they finally get it...

-SC
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yock
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reply to cavemonkey50
Re: Confirmation?

said by cavemonkey50 See Profile :

I'm sorry. I forgot to link to my evidence. I have updated the article with the link.
Heh, thanks. I appreciate that. I still cannot get to Howard Forums from work, though. Does the post contain something official from VZW? Some news outlet?
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cavemonkey50
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Just confirmed user tests. So far Verizon has been silent on the subject, except for one person who claims they saw something advertising the feature in a local newspaper ad.
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Deus
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Brooklyn, NY
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reply to north7
Re: Nope, they didn't.

There was a rumor going around Howard forums that it would have been reenabled in the .04 update. As people continue to get the update this is found to be false to a limited degree. As north7 has stated you can keep OBEX capabilities only if you originally had the .02 firmware and update to .04. The .04 only appears to be a patch to improve the UI speeds among some other minor changes. It doesn't add any OBEX capibilites that was removed out right in the .03 firmware.

As soon as I can, I'm flashing mine to .02 and then getting it flashed to .04.
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AnonProxy
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reply to fcisler
Re: charging

Ummm the driver for charging is free nimrod and works with the v3 and v3c.

said by fcisler See Profile :

Does anyone know if the RAZR V3c will charge off of USB, unlike my original RAZR V3?

by that i mean that I KNOW that mine charges off of USB - but ONLY if the USB host is windows, WITH their software (which isn't free). No drivers - no charging!

It's one of my biggest gripes about this phone. They ACTUALLY changes their version of the mini-usb spec to include another pin. My wall charger has this pin. If the phone dies - hope i have my charger. Once the phones dead, or 1 bar (of 5) left, USB will not charge it.

I think it's the absolutely most RIDICULOUS thing. My other phone charges via my set top Cablevision box via a USB data cable for *@#$&* sake!

Did i mention i hate all Motorola phones? especially nextel?


thatsjustgreat

@verizon.net

Reverse a bad idea, gain publicity.

So Verizon wants to stop losing customers to Sprint! That's just great, and it doesn't cost them much to do so... even better. Now stop giving them so much damn publicity over the move, and maybe they'll actually do something thats worth talking about, like increasing broadband speeds, lowering rates!!!
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