rileyjam514
There You Go Again...
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| This has nothing to do with Amazon
They're worried that some areas may choose to block traffic to their site (which is a distinct possibility).
I don't agree with MoveOn personally (I think they should've "moved-on" long ago), but in this case they've got a point - businesses aren't the only ones being targeted here by the ISPs. I think they ought to have phrased it differently - focus on the fact that if things go the way ISPs want them to go, there won't be a MoveOn.org any longer (which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's a double-edged sword).
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pnh102
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| So Much for Net Neutrality...
The people around this cause need to ask themselves a serious question... do they really think that getting the "help" of an organization which has such a long string of electoral failures is going to advance their cause?
If the "average American" looks at the issue of Net Neutrality and they see MoveOn.org attached to it, he/she is going to immediately think it is a bad idea and will vote accordingly.
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G_Poobah
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| "If the "average American" looks at the issue of Net Neutrality and they see MoveOn.org attached to it, he/she is going to immediately think it is a bad idea and will vote accordingly."
And that, of course, is exactly how moron politicians keep getting elected. 30% of all voters will vote for their 'party', no matter HOW corrupt or moronic the candidate is. The fact that the ACLU supports something means that 30% of the population is to stupid to realize that it may be a GOOD thing to support. The fact that the NRA supports something, means a different 30% thinks it's a BAD thing no matter what? That's not how a democracy is supposed to work, but it's been bastardized by those in power for so long, most people are to dumb to realize there's another way.
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pnh102
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| said by G_Poobah  :That's not how a democracy is supposed to work, but it's been bastardized by those in power for so long, most people are to dumb to realize there's another way. Perhaps DearAOL should try a different approach... sell unblocked email services to anyone affected by AOL's actions. You don't need government to help you do that.
Anytime you ask the government to "fix" something, the outcome is almost always worse than the problem was to begin with.
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | true look how your Republican Party fixed New Orleans, Iraq, Medicare, Gas Prices etc... your ignorance is inspirational. |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
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Re: This has nothing to do with Amazon
the paragraph you include on the bottom of your post.... aren't you ashamed to include that? have you no self respect? are you proud to alert every member of DSL reports of you views being an out of touch, ignorant, racist, homofobe? have a little respect for the other members here and omit your vile hate from your posts. |
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qdemn7
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| said by rit56 :the paragraph you include on the bottom of your post.... aren't you ashamed to include that? have you no self respect? are you proud to alert every member of DSL reports of you views being an out of touch, ignorant, racist, homofobe? have a little respect for the other members here and omit your vile hate from your posts. Why the hell should he omit it? 
There are plenty of Bush-bashers, Conservative-bashers, Republican-bashers, and Capitalist-bashers here at BBR with sigs I find just as offensive.
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SparkChaser
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Downingtown, PA | unbiased??
Left Wing?? So much for unbiased posts.  |
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pnh102
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Re: So Much for Net Neutrality...
said by rit56 :true look how your Republican Party fixed New Orleans, Iraq, Medicare, Gas Prices etc... your ignorance is inspirational. And as long as every Democrat running for office is stuck on the platform of "Bush Sucks" and continue to not even offer a real alternative to fixing these problems, they will cease to be elected.
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pnh102
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Re: This has nothing to do with Amazon
said by rit56 :the paragraph you include on the bottom of your post.... aren't you ashamed to include that? have you no self respect? Maybe if you included a pro-Saddam line in your sig, he might be more inclined to pull his. Of course, you can always ignore people who offend you too.
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rit56
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"Republicans have this funny habit of confusing freedom with what their view of freedom in America is... what's good for affluent white America and Corporations is all that matters and dissent is Un American" |
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kamm
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| said by rit56 :"Republicans have this funny habit of confusing freedom with what their view of freedom in America is... what's good for affluent white America and Corporations is all that matters and dissent is Un American" Very true. |
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pnh102
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Re: unbiased??
said by SparkChaser :Left Wing?? So much for unbiased posts. How is that not an unbiased assessment of MoveOn.org? They make no secret of being a left wing organization. The editor who did the article summary would be wrong in describing it any other way.
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Nanoprobe
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Re: This has nothing to do with Amazon
said by rit56 :the paragraph you include on the bottom of your post.... aren't you ashamed to include that? have you no self respect? are you proud to alert every member of DSL reports of you views being an out of touch, ignorant, racist, homofobe? have a little respect for the other members here and omit your vile hate from your posts. Here's a reality break for you. There are many here who agree with him. The only thing I see as out of touch was his compliment about "slick willy" being a sleazeball.
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cpayne5
join:2004-01-06 | reply to rit56
What makes you think he's an "...out of touch, ignorant, racist, homofobe..."?
Making blind, factless statements like this is as bad as what you condemn.
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qdemn7
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said by kamm :said by rit56 :"Republicans have this funny habit of confusing freedom with what their view of freedom in America is... what's good for affluent white America and Corporations is all that matters and dissent is Un American" Very true. Just like it's true that the NYC area is home to the largest concentration of hard Leftists in the entire United States. Since you're so near Canada, it's too bad we can't do a straight swap. All of NY State, (including Schumer and BOTH Clintons) for those Western Province that have a Conservative base and lots of oil.
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toddbs98
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While I don't agree with what is said at the end of his post I will defend his right to say it because for now we still have a 1st amendment right to free speech. Even speech that others may find offensive.
Besides, no where in what he says is there anything racist or homophobic and just because you don't agree with his political views doesn't make them ignorant.
So it seems to me, with all your name calling you are the one not showing any respect to the members here and to the 1st amendment.
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G_Poobah
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Re: So Much for Net Neutrality...
Well, Bush DOES suck, in fact, almost 70% of the American public supports that view now. It takes a level of skill and stupidity not often seen in this country to get almost 70% of the country to agree on one thing, and that one thing is that Bush is a dumbass.
You are correct though, even though we can almost ALL admit that bush is a moron, we can't agree on a solution. It's a lot like an alcoholic, where we can recognize the problem, but can't get to a solution. I don't think this country will hit a solution until we hit rock bottom. And with megacorps continuing their fascist maneuvering, I don't think we're too far until the masses revolt against the jackbooted thugs. I predict Verizon or AT&T will do a colossally moronic move, probably in a quid-pro-quo arrangement with the department of homeland thuggies, and violate the civil liberties of someone/something important in the next year, which will be the catalyst for change of regimes, and the incarceration of the corrupt leaders of said megacorps.
Hey, a bit offtopic, but what happened to your famous Rove/Rumsfield in 2008 tagline? They were a lot like a reeses peanutbutter cup, two dumb ass thugs that go great together. Looks like your winning picks have been, in the words of the Donald 'FIRED!'. Shouldn't you be supporting Gonsalves now?
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Jon Geb
Wal-Mart Sucks
join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI | reply to rit56
Re: This has nothing to do with Amazon
Where did you did up racism, homophobia and being out of touch in that sig line? Oh I forgot, this is liberal America jumping to conclusions based on stereotypes. You liberals are so closed minded. |
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toddbs98
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Re: unbiased??
As a member of Moving On, I have never seen anywhere in their literature where they describe them self as Left Wing, so this is a bias statement on the news editors part. Of course there has never been any pretense of unbiased reporting on this site be it political or technology related stories.
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